Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-08-02 Thread Jan Boutsen
: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer If anyone else has a FSA3011 please contact me, off-list. It seems to function on split-signal noise floor tests, but has real trouble with tracking and comparing actual oscillators. More details soon, but in case it's just my unit, I'd like to talk

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-08-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
If anyone else has a FSA3011 please contact me, off-list. It seems to function on split-signal noise floor tests, but has real trouble with tracking and comparing actual oscillators. More details soon, but in case it's just my unit, I'd like to talk with anyone else who's got one. Only a few

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer, HP 8405A or TAPR TIC

2019-07-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, If you sample continously and decimate the data properly you avoid the dead-time issues and get results which is translates well into ADEV measures. Cheers, Magnus On 2019-07-30 14:30, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > The 8405 is a fine device and with working probes can be very useful to have >

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer, HP 8405A or TAPR TIC

2019-07-30 Thread Wes
I have an 8405, fortunately in excellent condition, along with the BNC adapters, the resistive splitter and the 50-ohm line samplers.  The probe tips are very delicate and are probably unobtainium these days.  The electronics in the probes can be repaired.  I've been careful with mine and had

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer, HP 8405A or TAPR TIC

2019-07-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The 8405 is a fine device and with working probes can be very useful to have around. Without the probes .. not so much. Since they have been around since the 1960’s, the probes may have seen quite a bit of wear and tear. For comparing standards, an RPD-1 and a DVM will kind of / sort of do

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer, HP 8405A or TAPR TIC

2019-07-30 Thread tim...@timeok.it
. Luciano www.timeok.it Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com A time-nuts@lists.febo.com Cc "Perry Sandeen" sandee...@yahoo.com Data Tue, 30 Jul 2019 06:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Oggetto [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer, HP 8405A or TAPR T

[time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer, HP 8405A or TAPR TIC

2019-07-30 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Yo Bubba Dudes!, I've been following the discussion of the FSA3011 with great interest. Now I'm not in the upper levels of TN esoteric knowledge or have a burning desire to ever get there.   After seeing some small reference somewhere I looked at the HP 8405A on ebay and the price range seemed

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-07-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
dsl.net > A tim...@timeok.it,"Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Cc hmur...@megapathdsl.net > Data Sat, 27 Jul 2019 01:26:39 -0700 > Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer > > tim...@timeok.i

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-07-29 Thread tim...@timeok.it
athdsl.net A tim...@timeok.it,"Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@lists.febo.com Cc hmur...@megapathdsl.net Data Sat, 27 Jul 2019 01:26:39 -0700 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer tim...@timeok.it said: > Anot

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-07-27 Thread Hal Murray
tim...@timeok.it said: >Another question is whether in the case of the FSA3011 there is the > problem of the timewrap that would not allow > the long acquisitions. Wha's the problem? If it's just running out of high order bits in a counting register, I can fix that with a

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-07-27 Thread tim...@timeok.it
ul 2019 12:02:24 -0700 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer Yes, I'm evaluating a FSA3011 at the moment. It's a cute little unit. Documentation is sparse, the jpg plots are fuzzy, "customer" support is nil, but it works. My initial tests show it's ~4x

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-07-26 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One of the questions earlier was about the “offset oscillator” in the device and if it was tuned in any way. If it is not tuned *and* it has modest stability, the exact frequencies you put in may impact the performance you get. Since there seems to be zip for command set, I’d bet there is no

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-07-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
Yes, I'm evaluating a FSA3011 at the moment. It's a cute little unit. Documentation is sparse, the jpg plots are fuzzy, "customer" support is nil, but it works. My initial tests show it's ~4x worse than the data sheet claims but it turns out the unit is quite dependent on the rise time and

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-07-26 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi There was some chat a few weeks back about them and several questions came up about some of the features of the unit. I believe there was an inquiry into the people making the device to get some further information. If that *did* come back and get posted, I missed it. Bob > On Jul 26,