Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers

2020-01-12 Thread Dana Whitlow
nt: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:28 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers > > FWIW, at the Arecibo Observatory all our cryogenic LNAs had bias stabilized > with active stabilizers based on opa

Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers

2020-01-12 Thread lifespeed
-Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of Dana Whitlow Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:28 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers FWIW, at the Arecibo Observatory all our cryogenic LNAs had bias stabilized

Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers

2020-01-12 Thread lifespeed
-Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of Richard (Rick) Karlquist Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:39 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement ; Charles Clark Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers A VERY long time ago, it was discovered

Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers

2020-01-11 Thread Dana Whitlow
FWIW, at the Arecibo Observatory all our cryogenic LNAs had bias stabilized with active stabilizers based on opamps. Since the opamps do not work at ~15K, bias connections to the drain and gate of the RF FETs were brought out separately from the RF connections, and the opamp circuitry was at room

Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers

2020-01-11 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
A VERY long time ago, it was discovered that simply degenerating a transistor with an emitter resistor makes a worthwhile improvement in 1/f noise. I want to say this was published in 1970 by Dick Baugh of HP but don't hold me to it. Note that the resistor was NOT bypassed: it's purpose was RF

Re: [time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers

2020-01-11 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 11.01.20 um 15:36 schrieb Charles Clark: I wonder if adding active bias feedback around the RF transistor to reduce the low frequency current variations would help.  This is the classic PNP bias scheme which can be applied to BJT's or FET's.  I have used it to successfully improve the

[time-nuts] Low Phase Noise Amplifiers

2020-01-11 Thread Charles Clark
I wonder if adding active bias feedback around the RF transistor to reduce the low frequency current variations would help.  This is the classic PNP bias scheme which can be applied to BJT's or FET's.  I have used it to successfully improve the phase noise on oscillators.  Details from T.T.