Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-13 Thread Lars Walenius
e time and frequency measurement<mailto:time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Ämne: Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals Hello: Is there any other recommendations for a GPS receiver module, I note you recommend the Neo7M, but wondering if there are others that can b

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-12 Thread Bryan _
external hardware. Från: time-nuts för Jim Harman Skickat: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:28:00 PM Till: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Ämne: Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals > The challenge seems to me to b

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-11 Thread Lars Walenius
ia time-nuts Skickat: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38:31 PM Till: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Kopia: Nick Sayer Ämne: Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals I’d like to thank Jim and Lars both publicly for that design - I quite shamelessly sto

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-08 Thread Chris Waldrup
I was able to save it to iBooks on my phone and can print from that. Chris KD4PBJ > On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:52 AM, jimlux wrote: > > On 9/3/18 5:52 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: >>> Also worth checking out "Dean's book": >>> >>> http://www.ti.com/tool/PLL_BOOK >>> >>> This makes a great

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-04 Thread Hal Murray
hol...@hotmail.com said: > Besides temperature compensation for holdover conditions you should also > include drift compensation for OCXO aging. The Trimble GPSDOs, HP 38xx > and 53xxx GPSDOs, and Oscilloquartz Star-4 do this. Does any of the HP gear have a temperature sensor? If so, how

[time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-04 Thread Mark Sims
Besides temperature compensation for holdover conditions you should also include drift compensation for OCXO aging. The Trimble GPSDOs, HP 38xx and 53xxx GPSDOs, and Oscilloquartz Star-4 do this. Oscilliquartz calls it ATDC (Automatic Temperature and Drift Compensation). For many OCXOs

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-04 Thread Jim Harman
> The challenge seems to me to be how to temperature stabilize the entire DAC chain without putting it all in an oven Hi Forrest, Generally you don't have to temperature stabilize the DAC because it is inside the phase-locked control loop and the loop will adjust for temperature dependencies,

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-04 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. My underlying interest is learning about 1PPS holdover methodologies in the presence of environmental changes (think outdoor day/night temperature cycles). My thoughts are that there are two ways that seem obvious to me to implement a

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-03 Thread jimlux
On 9/3/18 5:52 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: Also worth checking out "Dean's book": http://www.ti.com/tool/PLL_BOOK This makes a great introductory text/prerequisite for the heavy hitters like Gardner and Rohde.  Dean Banerjee spent many years providing customer -- john, KE5FX You

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-03 Thread Hal Murray
li...@packetflux.com said: > I'm trying to fill in some gaps in my knowledge about PLL's, GPSDO's, etc., > with the goal to eventually implement some of these either in a > microcontroller or fpga or some combination thereof. An FPGA is unlikely to be the way to go for a GPSDO. There is lots

Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-02 Thread John Miles
: Re: [time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals > > You might try Phase Lock Techniques by Gardner. > > Rick N6RK Also worth checking out "Dean's book": http://www.ti.com/tool/PLL_BOOK This makes a great introductory text/prerequisite for the heavy hit

[time-nuts] PLL/GPSDO/etc learning resources for mere mortals

2018-09-02 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'm trying to fill in some gaps in my knowledge about PLL's, GPSDO's, etc., with the goal to eventually implement some of these either in a microcontroller or fpga or some combination thereof. My problem is that the resources I've found either are very basic - oriented toward just the high level