Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Jan 2, 2021, at 8:54 PM, Lux, Jim wrote: > > On 1/2/21 4:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> >> There is the R-390 and it has a mailing list….. >> >> If you are not running radio, then leakage may not be a problem for you. >> Thus no >> need to start hunting for it. >> >> Bob > > >

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-03 Thread Mike Suhar
If you're looking for a repeater check out this article. I have no idea if it works or not. I have not built one. http://www.ka7oei.com/wwvb_antenna.html Image of the schematic http://www.ka7oei.com/wwvb_ant_1d.gif Mike On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:46 AM Erik E. Fair wrote: > I don't suppose

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-03 Thread Erik E. Fair
I don't suppose there's any passive repeater solution for WWVB, e.g. antenna in attic feeding coax to another, hopefully smaller antenna to reach radio clocks with less-than-adequate built-in antennas in more unfortunately shielded parts of a house? Similar to how Community Antenna Tele-Vision

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-02 Thread Lux, Jim
On 1/2/21 4:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi There is the R-390 and it has a mailing list….. If you are not running radio, then leakage may not be a problem for you. Thus no need to start hunting for it. Bob The R-390 (or 390A) are not what might be termed lightweight .  (about 40kg, I believe)

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-02 Thread Dana Whitlow
Hal, I just ordered a "TinySA", largely with leak tracking in mind. I won't have it until about mid month (January), but have high hopes for it. I'm planning to use it with a small single-turn electrostatically-shielded loop, which I believe will yield adequate sensitivity for the purpose while

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-02 Thread Lux, Jim
On 1/2/21 4:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi There is the R-390 and it has a mailing list….. If you are not running radio, then leakage may not be a problem for you. Thus no need to start hunting for it. Bob The R-390 (or 390A) are not what might be termed lightweight .  (about 40kg, I believe)

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi There is the R-390 and it has a mailing list….. If you are not running radio, then leakage may not be a problem for you. Thus no need to start hunting for it. Bob > On Jan 2, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > Bob kb8tq said: >> If you can hear it on your radio with your normal

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-01-02 Thread Hal Murray
Bob kb8tq said: > If you can hear it on your radio with your normal antenna …. it’s leaking. Thanks. I don't have a radio that covers 10 MHz. Is there any particular brand/model of radio that people recommend for general time-nuts sort of hacking? Or where do the radio-nuts hang out? Is

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-28 Thread Bill Notfaded
@dana I bought one of the TinySA from the usa distributer. It even comes with an sma antenna that screws right on. I'm actually pretty amazed with how this little thing works! You can see the radio stations around easily along with other things if they're leaking. Really amazing little piece

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-27 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Dec 27, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote: > > Presumably any "rebroadcast" of WWVB is done in the spirit of near-field > communications where any far-field radiation falls off like 1/r^3 from a > small inductive transmitter loop. > > A loop the size of your entire house would be

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-27 Thread Per Molund
I have been using Chronvertor for years to simulate MSF transmission (from GPS source) since I am way outside the range of the British transmitter. However I am feeding the signal directly into the receiver so no problems with (un)intentional radiation. According to the homepage

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-27 Thread Tim Shoppa
Presumably any "rebroadcast" of WWVB is done in the spirit of near-field communications where any far-field radiation falls off like 1/r^3 from a small inductive transmitter loop. A loop the size of your entire house would be "small" in terms of 60kHz wavelength. Unintended coupling of the 60kHz

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-27 Thread Dana Whitlow
It just occurred to me that one of the TinySA's could be handy for tracking down leaks like this. Dana On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 8:02 AM Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > If you can hear it on your radio with your normal antenna …. it’s leaking. > > If you want to track it down, normal radio frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-27 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you can hear it on your radio with your normal antenna …. it’s leaking. If you want to track it down, normal radio frequency direction finding techniques work. At 10 MHz a loop or rod antenna is likely your best bet. Bob > On Dec 27, 2020, at 5:05 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > >

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-27 Thread Peter Vince
Do your receiver clocks need continuous access to the signal? The several radio-clocks I have here in England only enable their receiver for a few minutes at about 01:00 to reset themselves, and then put the receiver to sleep again. If yours are similar, your rebroadcast system could be

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-27 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Hal wrote: Transmitting on the same frequency you are receiving on seems like asking for troubles. Difficult perhaps, but not impossible. As /tvb notes, one solution is time domain multiplexing; and, as Alex says, phase domain multiplexing is another (although the phase discrimination of