Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: Keysight N5511A - phase noise measurements down to theoretical-177 dBm/Hz

2019-08-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
Perrier, It's a good question. Better setups use various forms of calibration methods to compensate for systematic biases. This can be done for instance by insertion generated side-band signals from a separate generator, where the power and offset frequency is set and a know relationship of what

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: Keysight N5511A - phase noise measurements down to theoretical-177 dBm/Hz

2019-08-23 Thread Bruce Griffiths
With hot and cold noise sources perhaps? Bruce > On 24 August 2019 at 07:07 Perry Sandeen via time-nuts > wrote: > > > Gentlemen, > A question for my curiosity and education.  Traditionally, the standard was > 10X better than what was being calibrated. > > Since this is at the theoretical

[time-nuts] Subject: Re: Keysight N5511A - phase noise measurements down to theoretical-177 dBm/Hz

2019-08-23 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Gentlemen, A question for my curiosity and education.  Traditionally, the standard was 10X better than what was being calibrated. Since this is at the theoretical limit, how might it be calibrated so the numbers provided are accurate? Regards, Perrier