Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
Similar story I was using one of those small modules abundant on Amazon and eBay.  Buck converter and drop out board.  It was noisy so I put a ferrite bead on output side.  One worked ok.  Added another and that put the board into full oscillation and it outputted 37V into a DUT destroying

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Steve - Home
Thanks Ed, that was another solution I was considering. I’ve got a few LMs in a drawer, I’ll have to order a few LTs. Steve WB0DBS > On May 3, 2020, at 11:02 AM, ed breya wrote: > > If you have a supply with something north of 15V, and you'd like to make 12V > battery type voltage, it's

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread ed breya
If you have a supply with something north of 15V, and you'd like to make 12V battery type voltage, it's easy to add an external solution with a low dropout three-terminal regulator to take it down a bit and still get good regulation. Look at LT1085 family, for example. Ed

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Steve - Home
I bit the bullet and ordered a pair of 12V supplies. I’ll see what I can suss out for differences when I get them side by side on the bench. Steve WB0DBS > On May 3, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > > Hi > > Unfortunately, there usually *is* a difference on each of these supplies. >

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Unfortunately, there usually *is* a difference on each of these supplies. They “fine tune” them for one specific voltage. Since the magnetics are often done in house, there’s not much of a way to figure out everything that they have done. The risk with any switcher is that they can (and

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Steve - Home
ssibly require > better / forced air cooling. > > Bob L. > >> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 at 9:53 AM >> From: "Steve - Home" >> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" >> >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Power S

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Steve - Home
Hi Bob, Main reason was I already have a few 15V ones and would like to reuse them. I have a gut feeling there’s not a major difference between the 12V and 15V models. I may get one of the 12V ones and open it up and do a comparison. I thought maybe someone had been down that path before.

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
scussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies > > Has anyone found schematics for the Mean Well supplies? I have a couple of > 15V 7A ones that will adjust down to 14.1 and I’d like to get them down t

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you want to do it and get full output, the change probably involves nasty things like swapping out inductors …. Likely cheaper to just spend the $16 and buy a brand new one at the right voltage. https://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mean-Well/LRS-100-12.shtml

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Steve - Home
Has anyone found schematics for the Mean Well supplies? I have a couple of 15V 7A ones that will adjust down to 14.1 and I’d like to get them down to the 12-13.8 range. Steve WB0DBS > On May 3, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > > Hi > > >> On May 2, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Perry Sandeen

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On May 2, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Perry Sandeen via time-nuts > wrote: > > Learned Gentlemen, > I personally dislike equipment that uses *wall warts* due to quality concerns > One inexpensive way I've powered my Lucent equipment is using used laptop > power supplies. They're easily found at

[time-nuts] Power Supplies

2020-05-03 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Learned Gentlemen, I personally dislike equipment that uses *wall warts* due to quality concerns One inexpensive way I've powered my Lucent equipment is using used laptop power supplies. They're easily found at HamFests or on ebay.  On Ebay prices very wildly.  If you buy 3 or 4 they can be $5

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-02 Thread ed breya
Power supplies are indeed mostly commodity items, but absolutely essential. I have a large collection of OEM open-frame units, in linear and SMPS, and a small collection of commercial bench supplies, and some home-made ones. You can of course get a bunch of bench units and set them up for

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <73bfcf33-8b29-38a6-d5a7-9192375d4...@earthlink.net>, jimlux writes: >I suppose I can package a bunch of those up in a bigger box with banana >jacks or binding posts. Use power-pole connectors, they are cheap and *so* much better. I'm using a couple of fused West Mountain

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Steve - Home
I’d give a “thumbs up” for the Acopian supplies, too. I have several and they get used regularly. I haven’t had one die on me yet (knocks on head) Steve WB0DBS > On May 1, 2020, at 6:23 PM, jimlux wrote: > > On 5/1/20 12:07 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote: >> Jim, when it comes to "bench supplies" -

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread jimlux
On 5/1/20 12:07 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote: Jim, when it comes to "bench supplies" - knobs for voltage and meters - most of the commonly available Chinese bench supplies in the under 3A-range are linear with series regulator. This unit (HY1803D) is typical and has a transformer (relay-selected

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread jimlux
On 5/1/20 1:11 PM, Mark Sims wrote: Yes, Power Designs units are VERY good. Some (their precision models) are insanely good. They have a cult following and can be a bit pricey these days. There are lots of posts on eevblog.com about them. Dave did a video on one of the precision units.

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You don’t have to get into the fancy versions to get a nice quiet supply. One of the guys at Frequency Electronics (I forget who …) turned me on to them back in the 1970’s. I have not seen any of them selling for the sort of prices some other supplies seem to command …. Maybe I just spend

[time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Mark Sims
Yes, Power Designs units are VERY good. Some (their precision models) are insanely good. They have a cult following and can be a bit pricey these days. There are lots of posts on eevblog.com about them. Dave did a video on one of the precision units.

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
I love my R NGT20, I have several of them. Reasonably clean, analog, uA741 technology, no switcher, knobs for everything. 3 independent, unconnected outputs: 2* 0-20V@1A for op amps etc 1*0-6V@5A for the digital stuff for example: <

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Spend some time on eBay looking for Power Designs bench supplies. They went out of business years ago so they are not a popular item. Thus the price is usually pretty reasonable. I have never seen one that was a switcher…. Bob > On May 1, 2020, at 2:51 PM, jimlux wrote: > > What with

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Tim Shoppa
Jim, when it comes to "bench supplies" - knobs for voltage and meters - most of the commonly available Chinese bench supplies in the under 3A-range are linear with series regulator. This unit (HY1803D) is typical and has a transformer (relay-selected winding depending on the voltage setting) and

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Peter Loron
If you are patient, you can find Sorensen/Xantrex/Ametek programmable power supplies on eBay for reasonable prices. Some of them are linear, some switching. High quality stuff. The XT series are linear bench supplies. -Pete > On May 1, 2020, at 11:51, jimlux wrote: > > What with telework,