Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 180, Issue 22

2019-07-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Here’s the gotcha with what they are talking about. The SC when done as a *fundamental* crystal has a higher Q than the AT. You don’t use fundamental mode SC’s in a normal OCXO. The issue with Q relates very specifically to the sort of HC-40 package AT resonators you *would* use for

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 180, Issue 22

2019-07-12 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The HP Journal article (page 20 March 1981 issue) on the 10811A agrees with Bob. It also points out that the lack of activity dips due to coupled modes and a much smaller dependence of the frequency on the signal level are advantages of the SC cut compared to the AT and BT cuts. Bruce > On 13

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 180, Issue 22

2019-07-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <2573d544-e3c9-4810-95c9-9e3a468ed...@leobodnar.com>, Leo Bodnar wri tes: >Here is a random selection of links to back my point of view that, >if you have noticed, contradicts Bob's. Given that quartz resonators is still both science and art, I put my money on the guy who

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 180, Issue 22

2019-07-12 Thread Leo Bodnar
From: Bob kb8tq - high-Q crystals require SC-cut >>> ... An SC has a lower Q than an AT of similar size >>> and design up to the point acoustic Q losses completely take over. >>> If you are talking about sub 20 MHz OCXO?s with ?doable? crystal >>> package sizes, the AT will have the