Re: [time-nuts] Using HP5071A with dead tube along with GPS

2019-12-24 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Since the devices may sit for a *long* time on the shelf, humidity can soak into parts. Adsorption / desorption rates normally are very different so a brief soak in may mean a *long* soak out. Bob > On Dec 23, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > kb...@n1k.org said: >> Like all

Re: [time-nuts] Using HP5071A with dead tube along with GPS

2019-12-23 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: > Like all “normal” 10811’s they are an open construction and move a bit > from > humidity and barometric pressure. How significant is humidity given that most of the interesting stuff is kept warm? Could I measure that using a typical bench as an environmental

Re: [time-nuts] Using HP5071A with dead tube along with GPS

2019-12-19 Thread vilgotch1
I have done this with an older 5061A that still has a good Cs tube but I don't want to use it too much. I used a Brooks Shera kit and a Trimble Lassen IQ receiver and fitted it all into the empty battery compartment. With a bit of modification it was possible to retain the Cs function but run it

Re: [time-nuts] Using HP5071A with dead tube along with GPS

2019-12-19 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The PPS input on the 5071 does *not* set the frequency of the device. To do so would “break” the Cs ( = you use the beam to get frequency). The *only* thing the PPS input gets used for is to reset the *time* to sync with UTC. Bob > On Dec 19, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Using HP5071A with dead tube along with GPS

2019-12-19 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
My experiment is not going well so far.  I have NOT done any tuning.  Just connected 1 pps out from GPS to 1 pps IN on 5071A.  Frequency keeps increasing, which I think is weird.  I thought it might just be unstable without proper parameters, but no.  Over last 24 hours, it kept going up.  I

Re: [time-nuts] Using HP5071A with dead tube along with GPS

2019-12-19 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The OCXO in the 5071 is an HP10811 it was selected at the time of manufacture for good performance. As far as anybody knows that testing was for short term stability. How well it retains that performance many years later - who knows? Is the original OCXO in the device - who knows…. Other

Re: [time-nuts] Using HP5071A with dead tube along with GPS

2019-12-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
Taka, Check your inbox from 10/2/2019: "A fun (and actually very useful) project would be to turn it into a GPSDO. There are SCPI commands to slew the rate of the internal synthesizer so you wouldn't even need to remove any parts, break any wires, or solder anything". There are copies of