Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and fluctuations after EFC adjustment

2020-04-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Well….. Once upon a time, there was a design review on a space part. There was an tantalum cap used in a couple of places in the design. It was a 50V part and running at 12V. We got dinged for it. Turns out if you over derate electrolytics (of any sort) there is a failure mechanism that

[time-nuts] Announcement: New TICC firmware available

2020-04-12 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I've just released an update to the Arduino firmware for the TICC; the new version is 20200412.1. It, along with all the TICC source code and documentation, is available at: https://github.com/TAPR/TICC. In addition to a few bug fixes and cleanups, there are a couple of more noticeable changes

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and fluctuations after EFC adjustment (Ben Bradley)

2020-04-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Electrolytic caps have a lot of leakage. That’s the bad news. The good news is that if you maintain a stable voltage on a tantalum part, the leakage decays ( = drops off) with time. In a system with a fixed EFC, you probably can get away with a tantalum part. You will have to wait a bit for

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and fluctuations after EFC adjustment (Ben Bradley)

2020-04-12 Thread Leon Pavlovic
Speaking of high-performance crystal oscillators, EFC inputs and Tantalum capacitors, how to select a good decoupling capacitor for its EFC input? I'm attaching two PN measurements made yesterday on a HP3048A. There are two 100MHz crystal oscillators in the setup, (1) a XCO made by myself, which

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and fluctuations after EFC adjustment

2020-04-12 Thread Donald E. Pauly
Unwind a foot or so of wire and measure the resistance to figure the wire size. If possible, then unwind the entire choke to find its proper resistance. This will determine the original value from the inductor data sheet. If not calculate the resistance from the volume of the winding. On