[time-nuts] Re: Long term ADEV of 5071

2021-03-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
You can do the ADEV just fine using Circular T. Long-term 5071 does not dominate the TAI phase/frequency, but they do dominate for stability. This is the difference between EAL and TAI, the 5071's go into EAL, but EAL is then frequency corrected with a handful of primary references (cesium

[time-nuts] Re: Fwd: FE-5680A Calibrator program by Bob Campbell VK4XV

2021-03-26 Thread djl
share? On 2021-03-26 12:18, DM wrote: The search is complete!! A friend sent me what appears to be the full package, the .exe and source code (although the source code is all Greek to me). I'll be playing with that in a few day & see if it will do what I need. My FE-5680A has aged a bit over

[time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Calibrator program by Bob Campbell VK4XV

2021-03-26 Thread DM
The search is complete!! A friend sent me what appears to be the full package, the .exe and source code (although the source code is all Greek to me). I'll be playing with that in a few day & see if it will do what I need. My FE-5680A has aged a bit over the years and I'd like to get it back on

[time-nuts] Re: Fwd: FE-5680A Calibrator program by Bob Campbell VK4XV

2021-03-26 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 2021-03-26 19:18, DM wrote: The search is complete!! A friend sent me what appears to be the full package, the .exe and source code (although the source code is all Greek to me). Any chances that you will make it available also to others ? Thanks 73  Alberto  I2PHD

[time-nuts] Re: Primary frequency standard

2021-03-26 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
At HP, it was explained that a primary standard could be built on a desert island containing no frequency standards nor any GPS receivers, etc. and it would be guaranteed by design to meet its spec. It could have adjustments, either operated by a technician or a computer controlled algorithm,

[time-nuts] Primary frequency standard

2021-03-26 Thread cdelect
In reference to: "It would be cool to say one has a "primary standard", So, I think we should be careful with the term, it's get thrown around too lightly." Any of the hobby grade used Cesium standards is actually a Primary frequency standard as it does meet the definition of: A frequency

[time-nuts] list STATUS - moderation now off

2021-03-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
Some administrative info (no need to reply). 1) We are still working on the time-nuts upgrade. When things solidify John will post details. 2) The time-nuts mailing list is currently unmoderated. a) When moderated, every posting is checked manually before it goes out. This is possible

[time-nuts] Re: FE-5680A Calibrator program by Bob Campbell VK4XV

2021-03-26 Thread Nigel gm8pzr via time-nuts
These are the files I downloaded several years ago, what looks to be the windows executable is inside a secondary zip file, publish.zip. I don't recall trying to use any of this as I always calibrated 5680As using the manual method. I've now uploaded the file to mediafire...

[time-nuts] Re: Fwd: FE-5680A Calibrator program by Bob Campbell VK4XV

2021-03-26 Thread DM
To all who requested, I uploaded the entire .Zip file to KO4BB manual site: http://www.ko4bb.com/ The filename is Fe5680Calibrator.zip It should be available to download soon. Cheers, DaveM From: "Alberto di Bene" To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 1:31:42 PM

[time-nuts] Re: Primary frequency standard

2021-03-26 Thread Lux, Jim
On 3/26/21 6:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: At HP, it was explained that a primary standard could be built on a desert island containing no frequency standards nor any GPS receivers, etc. and it would be guaranteed by design to meet its spec.  It could have adjustments, either operated

[time-nuts] Re: Long term ADEV of 5071

2021-03-26 Thread Azelio Boriani
Maybe HP5071s will get their ADEV when optical clocks will officially rule... On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 9:40 AM Magnus Danielson wrote: > > Hi, > > On 2021-03-25 19:21, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > Attila Kinali writes: > > > >> Does someone of those who own a 5071 have long-term ADEV

[time-nuts] Re: Long term ADEV of 5071

2021-03-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 2021-03-25 19:21, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Attila Kinali writes: > >> Does someone of those who own a 5071 have long-term ADEV data? >> I'm looking for multi-year data. While there are plenty of ADEV >> plots online, most of them stop at 1Ms or even at 100ks. > As I understand