[time-nuts] Re: 5065A - A15 (PSU)

2021-12-02 Thread paul swed
Ulf I would have replied off list. Are you intending to sell blank PCBs? I was recently thinking about the same thing as I watched the cfld move a bit. I know there is also a earlier thread on this subject 3-5 years ago. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 11:15 AM Ulf Kylenfall via

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Hi Jared, One of my 5065's have exactly this fault. One approach is to rebuild with a new power inverter. Another is to rebuild the amplifier board so it does not need -20 V and can operate only on +20 V. There should be DC-DC inverters, but I failed to grab a suitable pre-built board for

[time-nuts] 5065A - A15 (PSU)

2021-12-02 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Since the A15 regulator board is mentioned... I recently decided to try to improve the Voltage Regulator board A15in order to use a better voltage reference than CR5 (9V) and alsosee if I could reduce the drift and noise of the Magnetic Field winding. After some experimenting, I am reasonable

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Henk Peek
Jared, I think an -20 V rail short to ground has first blowup A15Q10. Then the -20V converter was light loaded and the output DC voltage goes up and blows also the zeners. The most easy way to protect and repair: replace A15Q10 with a LM337 with 2 resistors to adjust the output to -20V.

[time-nuts] Re: 5065A - A15 (PSU)

2021-12-02 Thread Shawn
Let me second Paul's question. I too am interested in the purchase of 2 of these boards and am happy to contribute funds in the advancement of this project. Shawn On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 15:09 -0500, paul swed wrote: > Ulf I would have replied off list. Are you intending to sell blank > PCBs?I was

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Larry McDavid
Try as I might, I cannot hear a single thing from my 5065A, which has run 24/7 for five years without issue. Jared earlier said he has inverter noise from his 5065A and now Magnus reports it also. How common is this? I will be interested in a replacement A15 regulator board as Ulf Kylenfall

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Jared Cabot via time-nuts
Well, yay... I put the OCXO back in the 5065A, and got a good 2nd Harmonic reading. So I started going through the alignment procedures and somehow I now have no 2nd harmonic again, and I can't get it back... I'm starting to lose interest in this thing, seeing as I have the Leo Bodnar GPS

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Andy Gardner, ZL3AG via time-nuts
Don't give up now, Jared! You must be so close to getting that puppy running correctly. On 2/12/21 9:16 pm, Jared Cabot via time-nuts wrote: Well, yay... I put the OCXO back in the 5065A, and got a good 2nd Harmonic reading. So I started going through the alignment procedures and somehow I

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Jared Cabot via time-nuts
Well, it seems more digging is needed... I have 84uA Photo I coming from the RVFR on A7P1, but the front panel is at 14 (Should be 42 for my Photo I level) Manual says look at Q1, Q2 and IC1 circuits. Anyone have any pointers or suggestions on what to check? Jared. ‐‐‐ Original Message

[time-nuts] 5065 - No 2nd Harmonic...

2021-12-02 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Jared, A 5065 is a piece of technological historywell worth preserving and keeping. Just put it away for some time and wait.Inspiration will come back. There are plenty of knowledge on the internet. Once you get the hang of troubleshooting ityou will feel rewarded. I cannot count the number of

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-12-02 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Hi Michael, Thanks for that plot. I think it sumarizes fairly well what typical devices of today achieves. There is rubidiums and quarts that go into the 1E-14s, but most do not. The old plot uses a "span" for the different technologies and that helps to avoid the "but this device/product"

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Wilko Bulte
Aha! That is very interesting background information! It nicely puts your comment in perspective to "bridge the fuse with a wire and be done with it". Big grin here when reading the "beer was involved" comment. I have used a similar approach on my business visits to HP CXO (well after T was

[time-nuts] Re: Rb standards (was: Project Great)

2021-12-02 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Hi Attila, Den 2021-12-02 kl. 00:10, skrev Attila Kinali: On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:23:33 + "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: The resonance we measure is not the real one, but one affected by the doppler-shift of the atoms speed, ie: velocity without sign, in the direction of interrogation.

[time-nuts] Re: Mating connector for Ball M-100 rubidium

2021-12-02 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Ball Efratom M-100 Rubidium Oscillator Operation and Maintenance Manual http://www.to-way.com/tf/m100.pdf The Manual will provide additional details for this M-100, such as rectangular and SMA connectors (10 MHz output). The M-100 was designed and built for the US military (DoD) by the Efratom

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Since you can “dial in” the correct voltage, I’d go with the parts you can find. I’d be suspicious that all those parts died and the transformer is still healthy ….. Bob > On Dec 2, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Jared Cabot via time-nuts > wrote: > > So it looks like I lost the -20V rail. Seems that