Re: [time-nuts] Oscillators

2018-10-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
Bob, et al. In general there's no problem using the list to sell or trade or give-away T gear. Especially if it's good stuff like what you have! The only thing we ask is that this benefit of using time-nuts as a marketplace be used sparingly. Some suggestions... It's best to collect a pile of

[time-nuts] Oscillators

2018-10-04 Thread Bob Martin
Time-Nuts, It has been pointed out that I've been a bit draconoian. If you will be out of touch from the middle of next week on and are interested in oscillators, feel free to enter your requests now. Also let me know when you will be back in contact. Lastly, I thought I'd given all the

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A TIC and TimeLab

2018-10-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Probably also worth mentioning: For short tau, you are probably measuring the ADEV of the counter noise floor rather than the ADEV of the GPSDO. Yes, there are noisy GPSDO’s out there but most of what you run into is not in that category. Bob > On Oct 4, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Ole Petter

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A TIC and TimeLab

2018-10-04 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:40 PM Magnus Danielson wrote: > Who-oh! OK. This means that one should intentionally let a number of > samples pass before trusting it. > Precisely. But, crucially, discard 1-2 samples *since the last INIT* - which may not be obvious without some investigation. It is a

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A TIC and TimeLab

2018-10-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hej Ole! On 10/4/18 11:21 AM, Ole Petter Ronningen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:00 AM Magnus Danielson > wrote: > >> Regardless, the 53230A does a filtered frequency estimation, which is >> great for achieving high precision frequency measures quickly, but not >> good for ADEV measures,

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A TIC and TimeLab

2018-10-04 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:00 AM Magnus Danielson wrote: > Regardless, the 53230A does a filtered frequency estimation, which is > great for achieving high precision frequency measures quickly, but not > good for ADEV measures, as it introduces a bias due to the lower > bandwidth of the filtering

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A TIC and TimeLab

2018-10-04 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
Somewhat longer answer; I assume you have set up a frequency measurement (as opposed to time interval) 1. Timelab uses SCPI-command "READ" to fetch readings from the 53230a (and most other counters *). The 53230a does not return gap free frequency measurements in this case. There will be deadtime

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A TIC and TimeLab

2018-10-04 Thread Ole Petter Rønningen
You may want to have a look at http://www.efos3.com/53230A/HPAK53230A-1.html Ole > 4. okt. 2018 kl. 04:04 skrev AC0XU (Jim) : > > I have recently acquited a 53230A counter and have tried to measure ADEV of a > GPSDO with it. I am suspicious of the ADEV numbers reported by TimeLab V1.31 >