Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt GPS for sale

2018-10-30 Thread Dana Whitlow
Jerry, Please contact me off-list. I have questions, and might be very interested in your T'bolt. Dana k8yumdoo...@gmail.com (830) 896-6712 On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 5:05 PM Jerry wrote: > Subject: Tbolt GPS for sale > I am selling my Trimble 10 MHz Thunderbolt GPS disciplined

Re: [time-nuts] Question about the PLL of Trimble Thunderbold

2018-10-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
> http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2018-October/094520.html Pardon the interruption. If any of our 1800 members uses a Samsung / Galaxy Tab to compose email and can help Bert with his formatting issues, please contact Bert (ewkeh...@aol.com) or me (t...@leapsecond.com)

Re: [time-nuts] Question about the PLL of Trimble Thunderbold

2018-10-30 Thread ewkehren via time-nuts
I have only worked with the GPS part of the KS system but some time nuts may be able to explore the use of the second half and they are available at areasonabble price          Bert KehrenSent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Bob kb8tq Date: 10/30/18 5:43 PM

Re: [time-nuts] FW: Question about the PLL of Trimble Thunderbold

2018-10-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
> With the idea that, when the adjustment loop is deactivated, an external > signal > can be supplied to the Thunderbolt, and the Time Interval circuit could show > the > difference in between this signal and the feedback of the VCO. I understand what you're trying to do. Your idea would work

Re: [time-nuts] Question about the PLL of Trimble Thunderbold

2018-10-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The Trimble Thunderbolt does not have a 1 pps between the GPS chips and the OCXO. It makes the link between the two portions of the system in a different way than the typical GPSDO. It uses the OCXO as the clock reference for the GPS chip set. It then uses phase data on the received

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 8600...

2018-10-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hej Ulf, On 10/30/18 10:18 PM, Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts wrote: > > Regarding the Oscilloquartz 8600-3 that was 1 Hz off the frequency...  > I have received information off the listthat I think will be helpful. > I will give it another try. One of mine is off in similar sense. It can't be

[time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 8600...

2018-10-30 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Regarding the Oscilloquartz 8600-3 that was 1 Hz off the frequency...  I have received information off the listthat I think will be helpful. I will give it another try. Cheers Ulf KylenfallSM6GXV ___ time-nuts mailing list --

[time-nuts] FW: Question about the PLL of Trimble Thunderbold

2018-10-30 Thread Ferran Valdés
Thank you all for your answers, I do have an additional question. Did anybody install an external 1PPS/10MHz input to the Trimble Thunderbolt board ?? With the idea that, when the adjustment loop is deactivated, an external signal can be supplied to the Thunderbolt, and the Time Interval

Re: [time-nuts] MEMS oscillators

2018-10-30 Thread Joe Leikhim
This is fascinating. I am a bit skeptical if this actually happened. I had an opportunity to meet an engineer that was involved with early HDTV development. Apparently early in his career he invented a color projection CRT for cinema. It had some sort of target inside of it (I think plastic)

Re: [time-nuts] MEMS oscillators

2018-10-30 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: > Why would a MEMS resonator care about what gas it is surrounded by. It might care that it is surrounded by some gas. If the container is mostly empty, the He could be the only gas, so the pressure could go from x to 10x. It does sound unlikely to me, but not

Re: [time-nuts] How can I measure time-delay of a cable with HP 5370B time-interval counter?

2018-10-30 Thread Dan Kemppainen
On 10/30/2018 9:55 AM, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: My MDO3024 (a modern scope) can measure delay and phase between two inputs, using the measured zero crossings, including statistics of the measurement. If you can obtain a similar scope, you could use two identical 1 Meg probes

Re: [time-nuts] MEMS oscillators

2018-10-30 Thread Paul Alfille
Helium is lower density, a feature used to reduce turbulence in patients with airway stenosis. Perhaps the lower density changes the resonant frequency of the MEMS oscillators. (Though the penetration and concentration are rather suspect in this description.) Paul Alfille On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at

Re: [time-nuts] MEMS oscillators

2018-10-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi More than sketchy, it sounds a bit crazy. MEMS are not a lot different than any IC in that you can get packaging issues. Put them in a high pressure “bomb” test and you will see the same issues that you do on any IC. The gotcha is that an IC is die coated and a MEMS oscillator likely is

Re: [time-nuts] MEMS oscillators

2018-10-30 Thread jimlux
On 10/30/18 3:50 AM, Adrian Godwin wrote: How sensitive to atmospheric environment are MEMs oscillators ? https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/9si6r9/postmortem_mri_disables_every_ios_device_in/ It gets closer to time-nuts territory in the earlier discussion - see captaincool's

[time-nuts] MEMS oscillators

2018-10-30 Thread Adrian Godwin
How sensitive to atmospheric environment are MEMs oscillators ? https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/9si6r9/postmortem_mri_disables_every_ios_device_in/ It gets closer to time-nuts territory in the earlier discussion - see captaincool's contribution some way down :