Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 Missing SP values in Appendix A.

2019-09-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi In a normal PLL the discrete components on the PCB play a big factor in how the loop behaves. There are some chips that allow the current out of the detector to be varied a bit, even on those the discrete R’s and C’s are still the “big deal” in how the loop behaves. There will be a significant

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 Missing SP values in Appendix A.

2019-09-13 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I suspect someone figured out some of the side effects what you're describing and adjusted the divisors to better match across all rows. I just wish SRS would have updated the manual if it was them. In my device, the R,N,A values were 6114,3456,29. The R,N,A values in the table in the docs on

Re: [time-nuts] Hp10811 parts ref

2019-09-13 Thread Charles Steinmetz
You are very welcome, Gilles. One point of clarification, and one additional note: I mentioned the LT1012 and OP97 together, then said I've settled on the OP97 without further comment. My choice had nothing to do with differences between these two parts. As far as I can tell from using

Re: [time-nuts] Hp10811 parts ref

2019-09-13 Thread Club-Internet Clemgill
Charles, Thank you for this very useful information ! My plan is to « clone » as close as possible the initial 10811 design, as it is well proven. Except changing the crystal and possibly use modern components if they bring any improvement, and adapting the « mass » to the crystal format and

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 Missing SP values in Appendix A.

2019-09-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Christian, Good catch! If the values is scaled up by a factor of three, the phase comparator frequency is divided by three. This may or may not be much of an issue, depending on where on the range one is. Too low comparator frequency is known to cause an issue thought, but once it is

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 Missing SP values in Appendix A.

2019-09-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Ummm ….. e …… The divisors run down to an output port. There has to be a filter at that port to knock down the noise and make the loop close properly. When you multiply the divisors by three, you cut the frequency at that port by three. You also have a significant impact on the control

[time-nuts] HP 5061 Cesium standards

2019-09-13 Thread jim stephens
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Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 Missing SP values in Appendix A.

2019-09-13 Thread Dana Whitlow
Thanks Forrest, I've added this to my documentation packed for my own PRS-10; I suspect that I'm only a year or two from (possibly) needing it myself. Dana On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 3:00 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Mainly wanting to post this to the list

[time-nuts] PRS-10 Missing SP values in Appendix A.

2019-09-13 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Mainly wanting to post this to the list so it will end up in the archives. So I decided to give calibration/adjustment of my bench PRS-10 a go. What I discovered is that on my particular unit, the frequency was enough off that in order to bring it close to spec, I had to adjust the Mag Offset to