[time-nuts] Dalibor Farny : A New Project : IRIG-B synchronization

2019-09-17 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Dalibor Farny (Czech) came to clocks and timing five years ago, via Nixie Tubes. He is now a 21st century manufacturer of Nixie Tubes (over 8,000). https://www.daliborfarny.com/ The Bombe Clock Project, by Paul Perry, used Dalibor’s Nixie tubes and original drawings from the Alan Turing Trust

[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, aka HP/Symmetricom Z3812A

2019-09-17 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
It has been five years (2014) since the Lucent GPSDO units, used in the cellular industry, appeared on the surplus market. The REF-0 units are still on the surplus market. Lucent KS-24361, aka HP/Symmetricom Z3812A. https://www.prc68.com/I/KS-24361.html Stewart Cobb & Bob Camp characterized

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's Atomic Clock

2019-09-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You probably are not going to find the Nano’s on the used market. The last one I worked with was very much a pre-production unit and that was only a few years back. Indeed if you are simply looking for a lab clock, the miniature Rb’s may not be the best choice. Their stability is generally

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's Atomic Clock

2019-09-17 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 9/17/2019 12:33 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Is there any advantage in using a GPS Rb disciplined oscillator vs a GPS disciplined high quality OCXO like the HP 10811A? I can’t understand why there should be, as a Rb source would use an OCCO in its output stage Therefore in each case *

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's Atomic Clock

2019-09-17 Thread Dana Whitlow
Dr. Kirby, et al, Remember that a GPS-disciplined Rb has two loops, hence two time constants, to consider: a) the loop which locks the Rb's internal OCXO to the atomic transition, and b) the GPS disciplining loop. I surmise that the internal loop (a) is fast enough to thoroughly suppress drifts

Re: [time-nuts] Capturing NMEA and TICC timestamp data in time-correlated way?

2019-09-17 Thread Hal Murray
> I can capture the NMEA data and the TICC data - this is not a problem. > But I'd really like to be able to capture both datasets in some sort of > time-correlated way, so I can easily post-process the TICC data using the > quantization error data. I can probably throw something together in

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's Atomic Clock

2019-09-17 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On 9/17/19 3:33 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 04:00, Dana Whitlow wrote: > >> The nice thing about a Rb is that its short term stability (seconds to >> minutes and perhaps >> even longer) is much better than that of a GPS timing receiver. The bad >> news is that Rb >>

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's Atomic Clock

2019-09-17 Thread pisymbol .
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:00 PM Dana Whitlow wrote: > All of the available Rb standards that I've seen have a 10 MHz output, > Some have a > 1 PPS output as well. > original buyer could save a few bucks. My PRS-10 is one of these. > > How does this compare with say a used Accubeat AR133/60

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's Atomic Clock

2019-09-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 04:00, Dana Whitlow wrote: > The nice thing about a Rb is that its short term stability (seconds to > minutes and perhaps > even longer) is much better than that of a GPS timing receiver. The bad > news is that Rb > standards exhibit long term frequency drift in the