Re: [time-nuts] New Subscriber, DIY GPSDO project (yes, another one)

2020-03-03 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Dienstag, 3. März 2020 18:41:43 CET Attila Kinali wrote: > On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 14:42:49 +0100 > > Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > > In the meantime, I'm thinking of another modification to make: getting rid > > of the HC390 ripple counter. I think I might be able to use the STM32 as > > a

Re: [time-nuts] weird Raspberry PPS+GPS NTP server behaviour

2020-03-03 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
From: folkert You can also keep the GPU busy. That'll work as well with the bonus that the main cpu stays mostly idle (iirc) for other tasks. https://vanheusden.com/ntpheat.cpp requires https://github.com/mn416/QPULib === That's neat! Thanks!

[time-nuts] System 2000 Datum

2020-03-03 Thread Julian
Does anyone have any updates to this gps to work in the present epoch? A while ago it started setting to 00-07-18 but the seconds time seems ok, and it locks up ok Julian ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts no longer carried by GMane.io

2020-03-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
To answer Achim's recent question (that's also been posed by others, neither Tom nor I are fans of "list scraping" sites like gmane.org. They offer convenience, but they also divert searches from the canonical archive at lists.febo.com to their own archives, which may not be complete. Their

Re: [time-nuts] weird Raspberry PPS+GPS NTP server behaviour

2020-03-03 Thread ASSI
[sorry for breaking the threading, I'm replying from the list archive since gmane.io does not have this list anymore] Hi David, [ntpheat] > I didn't know about that program and I'd like to try it here. A neat idea. > Is it available stand-alone - ready to run? I could compile it here given >

[time-nuts] time-nuts no longer carried by GMane.io

2020-03-03 Thread ASSI
Hi John, It seems that the time-nuts mailing list has lapsed from gmane.io (if indeed it got re-subscribed under the new domain, changed from formerly gmane.org) somewhere in January (there is one later mail from February, but I think that's courtesy of a cross-posting). Could you check

Re: [time-nuts] New Subscriber, DIY GPSDO project (yes, another one)

2020-03-03 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 14:42:49 +0100 Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > In the meantime, I'm thinking of another modification to make: getting rid of > the HC390 ripple counter. I think I might be able to use the STM32 as a > frequency divider. I just have to figure out how to program the timers. What

Re: [time-nuts] New Subscriber, DIY GPSDO project (yes, another one)

2020-03-03 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 12:14:37 -0500 Jim Harman wrote: > I don't understand why you say the DAC should have a resolution of 24-30 > bits. I can see that the loop time constant affects the precision needed in > the filter calculations, but what does the time constant have to do with > the needed DAC

Re: [time-nuts] New Subscriber, DIY GPSDO project (yes, another one)

2020-03-03 Thread Jim Harman
Attila, In your post from October you say, What, I think, you haven't had a look at is the resolution of your DAC. > You get, including your resistive divider a 17bit resolution. But this > is not enough. You want to be able to control the OCXO such, that at > the loop time constant, you have

Re: [time-nuts] What’s the BEST crystal?

2020-03-03 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 07:39:43 -0800 jimlux wrote: > How does a CSO compare with a Mercury Ion clock - the latter does fit in > a satellite and is intended to replace the USO kind of function. They use/used CSO's as local oscillators for the Hg ion clock. Their first papers ([1] and [2]) used to

Re: [time-nuts] New Subscriber, DIY GPSDO project (yes, another one)

2020-03-03 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Dienstag, 3. März 2020 14:14:37 CET Attila Kinali wrote: > N'achmittag! > > > No heatsink, just a couple of thermal vias into the ground plane and it > > gets a bit warm, but not more than 35°C (case temperature). I just > > checked with a thermocouple. > > Ok.. I'm surprised. Is the PCB able

Re: [time-nuts] New Subscriber, DIY GPSDO project (yes, another one)

2020-03-03 Thread Attila Kinali
N'achmittag! On Sun, 01 Mar 2020 01:38:11 +0100 Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > On Samstag, 29. Februar 2020 20:08:13 CET Attila Kinali wrote: > > The bulk (ie a bit less than half) of the power is dissipated in U3, > > which is a 0.5A spec'ed LDO in D3PAK... if it's properly cooled. > > Your PCB

Re: [time-nuts] weird Raspberry PPS+GPS NTP server behaviour

2020-03-03 Thread folkert
> Thanks, Adam and Hal. I will have a play. I need to decide which of my > flock to use, as some already sit in a fairly stable environment, and others > are doing real work which may be affected by running the CPU at 100%. > > OK, there's a non-critical one rather nearer to a CH radiator than

Re: [time-nuts] Time-Nutters-- Adding Rubidium to a Thunderbolt...?

2020-03-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 2020-03-03 09:48, Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > On Dienstag, 3. März 2020 09:25:13 CET Dana Whitlow wrote: >> Matthias, >> >> You said that the LPRO has a pulling range of 4 PPM. Really? I >> would think that 4PPB would be much more likely for a Rb. > Yes, sorry, typing mistake. The user

Re: [time-nuts] weird Raspberry PPS+GPS NTP server behaviour

2020-03-03 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
The source code is here: https://github.com/ntpsec/ntpsec/blob/master/contrib/ntpheat It imports ntp.util. But from my rudimentary knowledge of Python I see that it only uses it to get version number. So I think removing lines 24-29 and 51-53 should make it work without ntpsec. Cheers, Adam

Re: [time-nuts] Time-Nutters-- Adding Rubidium to a Thunderbolt...?

2020-03-03 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Dienstag, 3. März 2020 09:25:13 CET Dana Whitlow wrote: > Matthias, > > You said that the LPRO has a pulling range of 4 PPM. Really? I > would think that 4PPB would be much more likely for a Rb. Yes, sorry, typing mistake. The user guide says "more then +/- 1.5E-9", I found it more in the

Re: [time-nuts] Time-Nutters-- Adding Rubidium to a Thunderbolt...?

2020-03-03 Thread Dana Whitlow
Matthias, You said that the LPRO has a pulling range of 4 PPM. Really? I would think that 4PPB would be much more likely for a Rb. Dana On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:21 PM Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > On Montag, 2. März 2020 18:32:44 CET Skip Withrow wrote: > [...] > > The Thunderbolt DAC steps

Re: [time-nuts] Time-Nutters-- Adding Rubidium to a Thunderbolt...?

2020-03-03 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Montag, 2. März 2020 22:20:48 CET Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > On Montag, 2. März 2020 18:32:44 CET Skip Withrow wrote: > With a reasonably stable PPS from a timing receiver, just looking at the DAC > movements, it should not be a problem to have a MDEV of 1e-14'ish for > tau=1s. The LPRO