Re: [time-nuts] Garmin GPS12XL V3.51

2019-04-11 Thread Tony Finch
Adrian Godwin wrote: > > How much variation in the rate of leap second insertion is there? 1972-01-01 - 1992-01-01 : 17 1973-01-01 - 1993-01-01 : 16 1974-01-01 - 1994-01-01 : 16 1975-01-01 - 1995-01-01 : 16 1976-01-01 - 1996-01-01 : 15 1977-01-01 - 1997-01-01 : 15 1978-01-01 - 1998-01-01 : 15

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-06-04 Thread Tony Finch
Attila Kinali wrote: > Mike Cook wrote: > > > c. The first commercial cesium clocks were available in 1956, but the > > second did not get redefined until 1967. There is no rush. > > Which caesium beam standards were available in 1956? The Atomichron, I think:

Re: [time-nuts] The forbidden question

2019-06-05 Thread Tony Finch
Will Kimber wrote: > > The thing with TIME is that its measurement is a abstract concept.  Most > other "standards" have a physical representation. The metre is derived from the second and the speed of light using interferometry. The kg is derived from the metre and the second and the planck

Re: [time-nuts] Garmin GPS12XL V3.51

2019-04-10 Thread Tony Finch
Tom Van Baak wrote: > > There's another relatively simple clue in the old GPS signal: the leap > > second count! > > The idea was proposed 20+ years ago, Trimble even has a patent on it. > Details here: > > http://leapsecond.com/notes/gpswnro.htm Oh, wonderful :-) > But it turns out not to

Re: [time-nuts] Garmin GPS12XL V3.51

2019-04-09 Thread Tony Finch
Leo Bodnar wrote: > Assume that the device does not have any reliable long term non-volatile > memory that you can update. > In the absence of any clues your only reliable piece of knowledge is > that the cold start date is somewhere after the date of manufacturing > or, most often, firmware

Re: [time-nuts] Raspberry Pi 4B Ethernet delay

2019-11-13 Thread Tony Finch
Hal Murray wrote: > > The 10/100/1000 on Ethernet speed refers to net data rate. The actual bit > rate on the wire is faster to compensate for things like 8B/10B encoding. For > example, 100 megabit Ethernet is actually 125 on the wire if you look at it > with a scope. The symbol rate for

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-22 Thread Tony Finch
Philip Gladstone wrote: > > The data that I get is surprising in that the pendulum swing varies > according to the position of the hands on the clock. Clocks with large outdoor faces have extra problems along those lines... http://trin-hosts.trin.cam.ac.uk/clock/main.php?menu_option=pigeons

[time-nuts] Re: Where do people get the time?

2022-01-05 Thread Tony Finch
Tom Van Baak wrote: > > The new years celebrations last night remind me of another source of time: > time balls. There's a splendid building in Leeds that used to be a clock-maker's shop. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Ball_Buildings,_Leeds (tho last time I was there it was looking rather