Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps sync'ing

2018-06-29 Thread Artek Manuals
Maybe I am missing something obvious here but after using the 1PPS/10MHz reference multiplied up to 100 MHz cant you just insert a passive L/C phase shift network at the input (or output) of the multiplier chain and tune one of the "C" legs in the phase shift network to align theĀ  edges

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps sync'ing

2018-06-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 16:37:41 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: > How about just using an FPGA then? If you clock it at 200-400MHz, > then you can built a digital phase stepper with 2.5-5ns step size. > The FPGA can also handle the synchronization to an external pulse > quite easily and do fault

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps sync'ing

2018-06-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:13:10 +0100 "Martyn Smith" wrote: > I'm not trying to achieve 1-5 ns to UTC as that's not possible as already > pointed out, just 1 to 5 ns to a reference 1 pps (from Hydrogen Maser). How about just using an FPGA then? If you clock it at 200-400MHz, then you can built a

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps sync'ing

2018-06-29 Thread Lester Veenstra
To: time-n...@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] 1 pps sync'ing Hello, My colleague Steve asked a question about wanting to generate a 10 MHz and 100 MHz squarewaves with both rising edges aligned to a reference 1 pps input (to within 5ns). We already have a product that can do this (at 10 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps sync'ing

2018-06-29 Thread Chris Caudle
On Fri, June 29, 2018 8:13 am, Martyn Smith wrote: > My colleague Steve asked a question about wanting to > generate a 10 MHz and 100 MHz squarewaves with > both rising edges aligned to a reference 1 pps > input (to within 5ns). You say "both," but which edge you pick is a little bit arbitrary

[time-nuts] 1 pps sync'ing

2018-06-29 Thread Martyn Smith
Hello, My colleague Steve asked a question about wanting to generate a 10 MHz and 100 MHz squarewaves with both rising edges aligned to a reference 1 pps input (to within 5ns). We already have a product that can do this (at 10 MHz), but it is very complicated, and Steve's job is to fine an

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps Sync'ing

2018-06-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:46:54 -0400 Bob kb8tq wrote: > Does UTC exist ( real time ) at the 1 ns level? Currently, it does not. The clock comparison uncertainties are still in the order of 1-3ns for short distances (several 100km) and grow quite a bit once you go over something like 2000-3000km.

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps Sync'ing

2018-06-25 Thread Bob kb8tq
ing. It > sounds like an interesting application. Relative timing at the 1 ns level is > easy. Absolute UTC timing at the ns level is much, much harder. Does UTC exist ( real time ) at the 1 ns level? Bob > > /tvb > > - Original Message - > From: &q

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps Sync'ing

2018-06-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
quot;Martyn Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 3:37 AM Subject: [time-nuts] 1 pps Sync'ing > Hello, > > I am a newbie question. > > I have an application where I have a 10 MHz and 100 MHz squarewave output > from my GPS frequency standard. > > The frequency

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps Sync'ing

2018-06-24 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You can indeed do this, the question is - do you *really* want to? Depending a bit on your GPS module, the 1 pps output can jump around a few nanoseconds on a second to second basis. Keeping the 100 MH edge locked implies modulating the 100 MHz by at least a few ppb at some rate faster