Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Robert DiRosario
I just went on ebay. I got one of the 8 port units with 5V antenna power supply and 11 db amp, there is still one left $175.00 https://www.ebay.com/itm/GPS-SOURCE-S18-A11-P110-5-GPS-1x8-WAY-SPLITTER-DEVICE-LOOK-REF-233G/193397441449?hash=item2d0762c3a9:g:PQIAAOSw0eNdDSLi Here it is in the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi With a setup using a (bunch of) broad band splitter(s), you have only one amp. Whatever that amp needs / does can easily be dealt with. Have a 5V antenna (or 3.3V …) and a 12V amp? That’s easier to work on with only one amp. Need to allow the magic new band that just appeared? Just change

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Ben Hall
On 4/30/2020 10:39 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: At 1.5 GHz something like a 50 to 100 pf NPO is probably the best pick for a blocking cap. Why? It does a fine job at the intended frequency. It acts as a high pass down lower where lightning energy is a bit higher …. Hi Bob and all, You are 100%

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'll second this thought. I've got one of the symmetricom-branded distribution amplifiers in use here and it's worked like a charm. Unfortunately it only works with GPS L1. GALILEO seems to be at least mostly in it's passband, GLONASS is not. As the bands I've needed have started to increase,

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello All, FWIW, I've been using Model Number 2401IFD from Channel Master (power divider) for quite some time - works good for me. I bought the one I have from Halted here in the Bay Area when they were still open - didn't spend more than $10 on it if memory serves me. Regards, John W. AJ6BC

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The original splitters mentioned most certainly do *NOT* short the DC to ground. I have used those splitters for decades to power GPS gear. We have used them in production for runs of thousands of parts …. Before anybody goes off and spends $1,000 on a splitter, think very hard about what

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Arthur Dent
Most of the regular splitters first mentioned are basically transformers with one side if each winding connected to the case ground so they don’t work because they short out the 5 VDC on the receiver’s antenna coax. You have to be aware of the D.C. voltage to power the antenna plus have fake

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation? (John Ackermann N8UR)

2020-04-30 Thread N1BUG
I was lucky. I was looking for a GPS splitter a few months ago. Since I wasn't in a big hurry I had the luxury of time to hunt. I picked up a GPS Networking LNFA1X4-N for under $50. File that success under even a blind squirrel sometimes finds an acorn. It is an active splitter that provides

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Sam Sjogren
Frank (et.al.), I've been very happy with my 8-port GPS Networking brand unit. It's amplified so you don't incur splitting loss, it supplies 5V to the antenna from an external DC source while blocking DC from the individual units (but puts a 200 ohm load on each port so the receivers don't think

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Larry McDavid
This InStock Wireless 4-Way splitter is a *passive* device, meaning no amplification is included. The headline spec of "Insertion Loss 0.4 dB typical" may be true but does not tell the whole story. Below that spec, is the column heading of "Insertion Loss Above 6.02 dB" explaining that each

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread David G. McGaw
I use splitters made for satellite TV with good results, I think. They have response 5 MHz to >2 GHz and pass DC from any of the outputs to the input, so any or all GPS receivers can feed the antenna.  Some cabling can be done with F connectors, or I add adapters as necessary (F to BNC

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation? (John Ackermann N8UR)

2020-04-30 Thread biwa
I use splitters for broadcast satellite stuffs all the time. My preference is for splitters that have diodes so that all receivers can provide LNB power and at the same time not back-feed any of the other receivers. That way, if any of the receivers fails, any of the remaining receivers can

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation? (John Ackermann N8UR)

2020-04-30 Thread Chris Quayle
On 04/30/20 17:00, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: GPS antenna splitter recommendation? (John Ackermann N8UR) Usually a lurker here, but a couple of points. The best splitters are those designed for the task, such as the HP or symmetricom 4 way boxes seen from time to time on Ebay,

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
So, being a heartless butcher I opened up one of the HP 8-port GPS splitters (forget the number) and removed the sawtooth filters so the unit would pass both L1 and L2. I found that to bridge the filter pads even the smallest cap I had (I think 7pf) caused problems. I ended up making "gimmick"

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi At 1.5 GHz something like a 50 to 100 pf NPO is probably the best pick for a blocking cap. Why? It does a fine job at the intended frequency. It acts as a high pass down lower where lightning energy is a bit higher …. Bob > On Apr 30, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Ben Hall wrote: > > On 4/30/2020

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Ben Hall
On 4/30/2020 7:33 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Pretty much all the Mini Circuits splitters will pass DC. Hi Bob and all, That's absolutely correct. Something you might consider is what I did - I got a pair of Mini-Circuits ZC6PD-1900W's cheap on the e-place. Frequency-wise and loss-wise, not

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
nnell > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 19:18 > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation? > > I'm looking for a splitter to allow three or four GPSDO's to share my > roof-mounted Lucent PCTEL KS24019L112C 26db GPS twist antenna. > &g

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread John Ackermann
There is a Greek ham who sells a nice, very small, 4 way splitter with amp on eBay.  Sorry, no URL handy.  It works well, but is L1 only, if that matters.  It costs a lot more than a Mini-circuits splitter, but a lot less than a "real" GPS one. John On Apr 30, 2020, 3:16 AM, at 3:16 AM, Bob

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Chris Burford
. https://www.instockwireless.com/gps-splitter-4way-SMA-gps410.htm Chris Burford -Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of Frank O'Donnell Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 19:18 To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation? I'm looking

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
Frank, you are looking for something like ebay item 181914486443. But it's not cheap... Regards Bll NL7F Frank, Yes! Passive splitters are /not/ what you want. Units like the one Bill mentioned have an amplifier built in, powered by one of the active GPS devices

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 30.04.20 um 03:01 schrieb Bob kb8tq: Here’s a few: ... lots of ebay offers snipped The problem is, they will do their Job at RF, but the GPS receiver usually has to feed the antenna pre-amplifier with DC through the cable. The 4 RX candidates should not have to fight for the right / duty

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Again, that’s just the candidates pulled out of the first dozen. Three port splitters (in general) don’t exist. At least not on the “low cost” end of things. You either use a 4 or a set of three 2 ports ( to make a 4 port). Each time you split 2 ways, you “loose” 3 db ( equal power into

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread ed breya
Having more ports than you need will incur some extra loss, since the signal power has to be divvied up (usually equally) between them all. On the other hand, there's a pretty good chance that you'll want another port or more in the future - especially in time-nuts type pursuits, so it's good

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Bill Beam
Frank, you are looking for something like ebay item 181914486443. But it's not cheap... Regards Bll NL7F On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:06:35 -0700, Frank O'Donnell wrote: >On 4/29/20 6:01 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> HereG€™s a few: >Bob, thanks very much for the suggestions. >Five of the seven splitters

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Joseph B. Fitzgerald
0 10:06 PM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation? On 4/29/20 6:01 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Here’s a few: Bob, thanks very much for the suggestions. Five of the seven splitters in your list appear to offer a total of two output ports. Wha

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-30 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
Are you splitting power OUT OF GPSDO or are you splitting antenna into individual GPSDO? Most, if not all GPSDO outputs power supply source to the antenna via the same connector RF signal comes in.  Simple splitters may or may not work.  There are GPS antenna splitters made for that. 

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-29 Thread Frank O'Donnell
On 4/29/20 6:01 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Here’s a few: Bob, thanks very much for the suggestions. Five of the seven splitters in your list appear to offer a total of two output ports. What I'm looking for is one that will accommodate (specifically) three or four ports. Of the remaining two on

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Here’s a few:

[time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter recommendation?

2020-04-29 Thread Frank O'Donnell
I'm looking for a splitter to allow three or four GPSDO's to share my roof-mounted Lucent PCTEL KS24019L112C 26db GPS twist antenna. I understand from scanning past threads that inexpensive splitters by companies like Mini-Circuits often turn up on eBay, but I'm having trouble narrowing down