Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion,

2018-09-04 Thread Pete Lancashire
One way I like to put it is like you when I start it in ham radio I immediately considered WWV as the answer to everything TimeWise. But for me around about 1975 I worked at General Electric space flight systems. One could say I became a Time nuts then and discovered that what I thought what is a

Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The referenced line item is $6.8 million a year. It is still very much unclear if that is just WWV(H) (from the reference it must include them) or if it also includes WWWVB. Without any clarification, we are only guessing about WWVB. Given the way the budget process works, there’s never a

Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-02 Thread Artek Manuals
Does any one know what the line item $$$ amount is for the WWV/WWVB operating budget? -DC NR1DX manu...@artekmanuals.com On 9/1/2018 11:59 PM, Peter Laws wrote: On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 7:25 PM Bob kb8tq wrote: I most certainly *have* seen an NTP server that ran off of WWVB and relayed the

[time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion,

2018-09-02 Thread Joe Hobart
Scott McGrath I am an amateur radio operator (62 years), and I have accurate 1 PPS and 10 MHz available. I also coordinate emergency communications for this very large county. I use WWV: To judge propagation during normal and other than normal times To set clocks after a power outage

Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I most certainly *have* seen an NTP server that ran off of WWVB and relayed the result to the internet. The fun part was that they had entered the “delay” number into their config file with the wrong sign on it (or there was a bug in the NTP code at that time). The result was that they were

Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-01 Thread Don
Try receiving wwv or wwvb with your HP3586 SLV and determine precisely where f(o) is. It's difficult, ...as propagation and atmospheric conditions will unwittingly prevail. This ham prefers my gpsdo's, or my cesium. Don N5CID = On

[time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-01 Thread Mark Sims
Me too... that's why Lady Heather can calculate and plot solid earth tide displacements. Also the vertical offset in gravity due to solar/lunar tidal effects. - >I'd rather read about Earth tides affecting time measurements. ___

Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-01 Thread William H. Fite
With respect, Scott, EVERY ham knows about WWV. On Saturday, September 1, 2018, Scott McGrath wrote: > I’m concerned with the science > > the WWV/WWVB stations provide invaluable information about the condition > of the ionosphere with a baseline of DECADES of data. > > Also dont forget that

Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-01 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 9:13 AM, David G. McGaw wrote: > I consider saving WWV/WWVH/WWVB to be ON topic. They may not be as > precise as some on this list like to achieve, but they are publicly > available methods of time dissemination. I am very concerned that factions > of NIST consider that

Re: [time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-01 Thread David G. McGaw
I consider saving WWV/WWVH/WWVB to be ON topic.  They may not be as precise as some on this list like to achieve, but they are publicly available methods of time dissemination.  I am very concerned that factions of NIST consider that this should no longer be part of their mission. David

[time-nuts] Lots of Off Topic discussion

2018-09-01 Thread David C. Partridge
Guys, The noise level has risen rather high lately. I really think that discussions of jamming of GPS and other systems are not relevant. The loss of WWVx is also mostly OT as I don't believe that anyone seriously still uses it for a time/frequency reference these days. Dave