Re: [time-nuts] Pressure related rubidium oscillator aging

2018-08-14 Thread Dana Whitlow
What you say makes good sense, as He does not stick around very well- it would tend to diffuse out through the cell walls. I once spoke with a fellow involved in the deep sea diving business, and he claimed that vidicon cameras used in the deep habitats used to deteriorate in performance in a

Re: [time-nuts] Pressure related rubidium oscillator aging

2018-08-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:23:56 -0500 Dana Whitlow wrote: > Does the Rb cell use He as a buffer gas? AFAIK most use a Ne/N mixture these days. I am not sure whether I have seen He used as buffer gas for Rb cells, but I do not think so. Other noble gases (Ar, Xe, ...) popped up a few times, though.

Re: [time-nuts] Pressure related rubidium oscillator aging

2018-08-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:17 -0600 Skip Withrow wrote: > So far, I have been operating in the 10-50 Torr range and have seen a > very definite trend on aging with pressure. But there is much more > research to do. My big question is - what pressure related mechanism > might affect aging? I

Re: [time-nuts] Pressure related rubidium oscillator aging

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Aging in the short term tends to be dominated by equilibrium issues. Some of them can have “many months” sort of time constants . That makes any study like this pretty hard to do. Worst case is when a short term effect has the opposite sign from the long term. You go through a really flat

[time-nuts] Pressure related rubidium oscillator aging

2018-08-14 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Time-Nuts, For the past several months I have been investigating the change in aging rate of a rubidium oscillator with change in pressure. This has been done with an operating oscillator in a temperature controlled vacuum chamber. Obviously, the frequency changes (a lot) with pressure