[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread ew via time-nuts
A couple of years back, we started to explore using Laser Diode with a FRK. Started by looking at shorter time constant for the loop and found that 0.055 seconds gave best AV. Longer time constant for Laser control. Also using external reference for tuning. Using HP 70 000 Optical Plug in to

[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One thing we often miss as we shop for these Rb’s on eBay …. $2K is a pretty typical single piece price for these devices. They sell for a lot more new than the prices we see for 10 or 20 year old “scrap” parts. Indeed the volume price to OEM’s is a bit below half that number. Still, it is

[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread David Witten
It seems to be aspirational. It has been on the SparkX page for a long time now. Dave > Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2021 07:15:13 + > From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" > Subject: [time-nuts] Sparkfun lists SA.35m > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Message-ID:

[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, What you do is that you servo the semicondoctor laser to the transition, as you do that with sufficiently narrow laser you can utilize the CBT mode operation which has additional benefit rather than just replacing the rubidium lamp with a semiconductor laser. Getting a laser in 780 nm range

[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Dana Whitlow writes: > I knew about the use of the VCSEL, but I'd bet a good dinner that it's not a > Rubidium laser! I dont see anybody claiming that ? It is a laser interrogated rubidum frequency standard. The crucial part of the "Theory of Operation" is: The MAC is a

[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread Dana Whitlow
I knew about the use of the VCSEL, but I'd bet a good dinner that it's not a Rubidium laser! Last I heard, none of the elements in that corner of the periodic table were semiconductors, and it's hard to imagine a vapor-based VCSEL. Dana On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:31 AM Lux, Jim wrote: > On

[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread Lux, Jim
On 4/3/21 4:22 AM, Dana Whitlow wrote: "rubidium laser" ??? Dana I don't know about the MAC, but the CSAC uses a VCSEL to shine through the gas cell. The MAC is a pretty big thing compared to the CSAC - it's in the usual 2x2" package and draws 5-8W (after warmup) On Sat, Apr 3, 2021

[time-nuts] Re: Sparkfun lists SA.35m

2021-04-03 Thread Dana Whitlow
"rubidium laser" ??? Dana On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 2:15 AM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I know it's not a particular outstanding atomic clock, but I was still > surprised to see that Sparkfun lists the SA.35m for $1995... > > https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14830 > > Not in stock