Re: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Without the benefit of agressive low pass filtering the noise of an LT3042 at 10Hz is at least an order of magnitude worse than that of an unfiltered LED for the same output voltage. The noise of Nitride passivated LEDs degrades significantly with aging and there is a strong correlation between

Re: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
There are some NIR sensitive photodiodes that take advantage of the NIR transparency of some black epoxies. Bruce > On 20 August 2018 at 02:48 Dana Whitlow wrote: > > > Be watchful about the black epoxy. It may just be a dyed (otherwise > clear) epoxy, > and some of the black dyes in common

[time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Mark Sims
Also check your red LEDs. I have some that have a Vf of over 3V. They could be a blue LED/phosphor (not likely, blue -> red conversion is rather inefficient) or two red LEDs in series. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 19.08.2018 um 14:43 schrieb Bruce Griffiths: Yes, I looked at the plots and I see exactly what I described. 2nV/rtHz at frequencies somewhat above the reference current source output RC filter, rising to a high value at frequencies below the current source output filter pole. This is an

Re: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Dana Whitlow
Be watchful about the black epoxy. It may just be a dyed (otherwise clear) epoxy, and some of the black dyes in common use pass near IR quite readily. This would probably be most troublesome if the ambient light source were of the incandescent persuasion. Also, small diodes in clear packages

Re: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Didier Juges
That's a very good point. I have used LEDs as photocells many times, the first time was in 1974 when it was easier for this university student to get LEDs than photocells. I have also made a bi-directional optically isolated data link using a single fiber optic cable and two fiber optic

Re: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Yes, I looked at the plots and I see exactly what I described. 2nV/rtHz at frequencies somewhat above the reference current source output RC filter, rising to a high value at frequencies below the current source output filter pole. This is an inherent property of the architecture. The LT3042 is

Re: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-19 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 19.08.2018 um 10:22 schrieb Bruce Griffiths: Rick I devised the bias circuit for the TNS-BUF. It exploits the fact that for a RED LED at least the difference between the LED forward voltage and the transistor Vbe is ~ 1V and has a fairly low tempco and has low noise (at least for RED

[time-nuts] TNS-BUF update

2018-08-18 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
We just got word that the new batch of TNS-BUF isolation amplifier boards have made it through customs and are on the way to the TAPR office. If you have one on order, it should be going out next week. We do have a few extra boards available if anyone needs one: https://tapr.org/kits_tns-buf