Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-09-07 Thread Hal Murray
andrewbac...@msn.com said: > Also -- when the GlobalTop loses a fix it still puts out the RMC sentence, > just without the lat and lon data. And the PPS immediately stops. I > designed the parsing scheme to account for that. How long that reporting > would continue I don't know. The RMC

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-09-06 Thread Andy Backus
From: time-nuts on behalf of Wayne Holder Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:49 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator I was able to sort out my issue with the DST bits with the help of the code Andy Backus recently published

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-09-06 Thread Wayne Holder
I was able to sort out my issue with the DST bits with the help of the code Andy Backus recently published. I believe my code should now be ready for anyone who's curious to try out. Complete details are available on the following page:

[time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-09-05 Thread Mark Sims
If your receiver has it the $GPZDA can be a better message to use. They usually have better seconds resolution and some receivers give them some special love as to when they come out. But, depending upon your code, this may not matter. Also check to see if your chosen time message comes

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-09-05 Thread Wayne Holder
I've reworked my WWVB Simulator so it can now run on a slightly modified, 328-based Arduino (swapped in a 16.36 MHz crystal for the standard 16 MHz.) The new code is also now using a GPS module to set the time from the GPS $GPRMC message and my BALDR clock just syncs up nicely. I used a

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-09-01 Thread Wayne Holder
My 15.36 MHz crystals arrived and using one to replace the 8 MHz crystal seems to, again, improve the ability of the BALDR clock to lock onto and decode the signal. It now reliably syncs if the clock is within 6-7 inches of the tuned, ferrite rod antenna (still just wrapping the wire around the

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-31 Thread Wayne Holder
> Wayne very good progress. You can actually feed the loop coild that exists > with the cap it should resonate. > Thats my plan at least. Thanks, Paul. Actually, after running a few more tests, the BALDR seems to now set quite reliably with the wire just wrapped around the ferrite rod as long as

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-30 Thread paul swed
Wayne very good progress. You can actually feed the loop coild that exists with the cap it should resonate. Thats my plan at least. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:44 PM, Wayne Holder wrote: > I've had some luck improving things with my ATTiny85-based WWVB Simulator > design by

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-30 Thread Wayne Holder
For anyone trying out my ATTiny85 code, I've done some additional tests and find that placement of the antenna near the clock is very finicky and, so far, the only way to get a reliable decode of the time in the clock is by using a scope to monitor the demodulated output and then moving the

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-29 Thread Wayne Holder
For those that have asked for my to publish the source code for my ATTiny85-based WWVB simulator, I have put up a somewhat hurriedly written page on my google site at: https://sites.google.com/site/wayneholder/controlling-time that describes a bit about how the code works, how to compile it

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If somebody really wanted to go crazy on this, a link just popped up in my inbox: https://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/about/events/events.html/teseo-liv3f-gnss-module-webinar.html?ecmp=tt7108_us_enews_apr2018=stmDM10269=166175037=tEVjzOAFGOno6x6Htwrh8A==

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-29 Thread paul swed
Wayne always fun to see what others are doing and to learn. I would imagine the programs pretty small and could be attached here. How will you handle DST? Its a bit messy as a recent thread detailed. Plus the fact that god knows why politicians like to screw with it. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed,

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-29 Thread Dana Whitlow
I hope that those of you who write code to generate the WWVB signals in real time from a GPS receiver's output will publish well documented source listings. I for one want to learn how one does this kind of thing in 'C', both for general interest and for this specific application. Thanks, Dana

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-29 Thread Wayne Holder
As a follow up, I now have a simple WWVB simulator written in C that's now running an an ATTiny85 using nothing more than the internal, 8 mHz oscillator and about a 6 inch length of wire connected to one of the pins as an antenna. It generates an approximate 60 kHz signal using PWM on timer 1. I

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-26 Thread paul swed
That would be a great neighbor to have but I can tell you around here its the phone. Not to concerned about someone putting up a wwvb replacement. And I can always up the power. Chickle. Regards Paul On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > The gotcha is if you have neighbors

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-26 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The gotcha is if you have neighbors two or three doors away that *also* put up one of these devices. You then have a real problem with the neighbor(s) in the middle. The wavelength is long enough that Raleigh issues won’t get you. You still have the two signals ( at slightly different

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-26 Thread paul swed
Agree with the conversation. With respect to neighbors when the day comes they may ask you to boost your signal. :-) Granted maybe the day won't come but at least having your local clocks work is nice. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Dana Whitlow wrote: > With the watch

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread Dana Whitlow
With the watch being physically close to the faux WWVB "transmitter", one is in the so-called "near field" regime, where the field strength (V/m) falls as the inverse cube of the distance. If one is putting the watch, say, within a few inches of the transmitter, reliable reception should be

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread Wayne Holder
This guy has what looks like a well thought out design using a Sirf-Based GPS and ATTiny44A chip to generate a signal to update his watch: https://www.anishathalye.com/2016/12/26/micro-wwvb/ Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have published a schematic or his source code. But, he covers enough

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread paul swed
Great to see the threads. Take a look at the Chronverter. https://unusualelectronics.co.uk/products/chronvertor/ Its done all of this. I don't get anything by promoting Daves design. But am having very good success with it on my Spectracom and Truetime clocks. I would like to look at the code

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread Peter Vince
Hi Mark, If you were able to include optional modulation for the UK's MSF signal as well as WWVB, then I'd be very interested - especially if you could persuade John and TAPR to produce a kit :-) Europe's DCF would also be a good selling point, but getting its 77.5KHz would be more

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread Vlad
Few moons ago, I was thinking about to connect little audio amp. with attached usual WWVB ferrite antenna to the computer sound card. But I was stack about how to modulate the signal using SoundCard libraries. There is bunch of example how to generate sine or rectangles. The question is how

[time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread Mark Sims
If I was going to do it I would take a cheap Ublox 7M board (around $10 with antenna), program one of the time pulse outputs for 60 kHz (it divides evenly into 48 Mhz so no jitter), feed the Ublox serial data / 1PPS to an AVR chip (or $2 Arduino Nano clone), and use that to modulate the 60

[time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread D. Resor
I thought I would search in a different way for a WWVB signal generator design. I found this item. While the designer explains it isn't as accurate as WWVB it may be another starting point. http://www.tauntek.com/wwvbgen-low-cost-wwvb-time-signal-generator.htm Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. &