Re: [time-nuts] Older Lucent GPSDO and Rubidium combo

2010-12-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It's unclear exactly what they did. My *guess* is: 1) They fire up the GPS and get it doing it's thing 2) They lock up the XO and get it into on time / on frequency status 3) They use the XO signal to zero out the offset in the Rb Again, that's just a guess. There are later versions where

[time-nuts] ny information regarding FEI-Zyfer GPS Time Frequency Module

2010-12-13 Thread John Green
A few of these are currently on eBay at pretty low prices. I have never heard of them and was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with them or knows where some information might be found. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It's been a long time since I've tried this, but the Iceland chain was a reasonable catch from the central US with an Austron 2100 and the standard supplied whip antenna. Reception was ok at night and useless during the day. As I recall the signal was well above ( 20 db) the rated floor of the

Re: [time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-13 Thread J. Forster
??? Both my Austron 2100Fs have Austron loops. -John Hi It's been a long time since I've tried this, but the Iceland chain was a reasonable catch from the central US with an Austron 2100 and the standard supplied whip antenna. Reception was ok at night and useless during

Re: [time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 61515.12.6.201.2.1292262311.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. Fors ter writes: Relative to the old Iceland chain, the new 4-digit GRI's should be more immune to noise because 1kHz raster signals average out. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org

Re: [time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The one we had used a whip mounted to a preamp. The antenna was a separate line item on the PO, so you could pick which ever one you wanted to use. We wanted to sync to multiple chains, so the omni directional whip made sense. Never had an Austron loop, so I can't say which one was the better

Re: [time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Certainly more immune to synchronous noise like RFI from switching power supplies. I haven't checked the ERP numbers on the chains. There may be some differences there. Some of the Asian chains used to pump out a *lot* of power. Bob -Original Message- From:

[time-nuts] Motorola VC-TCXO

2010-12-13 Thread Chris Albertson
Has anyone seen or used these 10Mhz oscillators. $20 shipped seems a reasonable price. It's an un-used Motorola part. Maybe there is something better? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280567398921ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT I want to use them in a portable (battery powered) freq

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VC-TCXO

2010-12-13 Thread Collins, Graham
I have one of these same exact modules which I purchased to use as a TXCO that I could then lock to an external standard in an HP Agilent 5314A Universal counter. My project hasn't moved beyond a very preliminary planning stage at the moment pending some more information on the device. I haven't

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VC-TCXO

2010-12-13 Thread Stan, W1LE
I looked at them awhile and passed. For 45$ and maybe S/H I can get an ovenized xtal oscillator ISOTEMP OCXO that is probably 3+ orders of magnitude better in accuracy/stability. Good at 12V DC also. Some with voltage control requiring only an external pot for fine tuning. So a search on

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VC-TCXO

2010-12-13 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: For 45$ and maybe S/H I can get an ovenized xtal oscillator ISOTEMP OCXO that is probably 3+ orders of magnitude better in accuracy/stability. Good at 12V DC also. Some with voltage control requiring only an external How

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-13 Thread Chuck Harris
Chris Albertson wrote: 2) Look at the developer documentation for Mac OSX's quartz graphic system. Very loosely, what you do is open a contex and then send PDF drawing comands to it. This can be directed to the screen of a file. The same is true of IOS devices like the iPad or iPod touch.

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VC-TCXO

2010-12-13 Thread ashley40
The ISO TEMP ovens we have experience with draw 20-40ma for the oscillator and a couple hundred or so MA on oven start up, generally decreasing to 80 ma or so when the oven is at temp. Often the oven will be 28V and the oscillator will be 15V, although +5V oscillator and +12V oven examples are

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VC-TCXO

2010-12-13 Thread Stan, W1LE
My portable battery is 12V at ~15 amp hours. it is good for the weekend of a ham radio contest from Friday's calibration/tweaking thru Sunday night. The OCXO stays powered up all weekend on its dedicated battery. I do not have hot/cold current draw in front of me, but as I recall is 100-200

[time-nuts] Where 15 MHz?

2010-12-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, A quick question to settle my curiosity... Which mobile application uses 15 MHz? I know that GSM uses 13 MHz, but I can't recall which one uses 15 MHz. I'd be happy if someone would care to enlighten me. We have also seen 19,6608 MHZ being in use, and recently seen a

Re: [time-nuts] Where 15 MHz?

2010-12-13 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Lucent Cell phone site GPSDO output 15 Mhz. Stanley - Original Message From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 6:10:14 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Where 15 MHz? Fellow

Re: [time-nuts] Where 15 MHz?

2010-12-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/14/2010 01:24 AM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Lucent Cell phone site GPSDO output 15 Mhz. Yes, that I already know, but for what kind of equipment was it meant? Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Where 15 MHz?

2010-12-13 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Looking at the age of some of it started with analog continued with TDMA and or CDMA not sure if it is still in use. Maybe analog used the non GPS stuff as the oldest was RB and XO but not GPS. Stanley - Original Message From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To:

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: BasicsandApplications

2010-12-13 Thread paul swed
Oh yes I would agree On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:24 PM, WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net wrote: For sure, The problem was not in the downloading. The real problem was in trying to read the damn thing as it gave my one cell brain a serious headache. BillWB6BNQ paul swed wrote: Thanks for the

Re: [time-nuts] WTB up to 10 pieces - Rockwell Jupiter - TU30-D140

2010-12-13 Thread paul swed
Kind of went quite On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Dabney Crump dab...@dhcrump.com wrote: Hi Robert, Yes, its for the 10kHz output. Basically the units will be part of a set of timing computers that will be used at fixed locations to measure time intervals. That's very fast, how did you

Re: [time-nuts] WTB up to 10 pieces - Rockwell Jupiter - TU30-D140

2010-12-13 Thread Dabney Crump
Hi All, I don't suppose anyone found any of the Jupiter units over the weekend? Thanks - Dabney On 12/13/2010 06:23 PM, paul swed wrote: Kind of went quite On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Dabney Crumpdab...@dhcrump.com wrote: Hi Robert, Yes, its for the 10kHz output. Basically the units

Re: [time-nuts] Where 15 MHz?

2010-12-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It turns out that 15 MHz x N (I forget the N) makes a nice LO in the 900 MHz range for an base station. That's what drove the choice of 15 over 5 or 10 MHz. I believe there was a bit of the all frequencies are equally cheap in your volumes sales pitch involved as well. Bob On Dec 13,