Re: [time-nuts] Disciplining a TCXO

2012-10-26 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:46:35 +1100 Tom Harris celephi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been asked the viability of using a vanilla TCXO, with an accuracy of +/- 0.5ppm (+/- 15 secs per year) that is disciplined occasionally (perhaps only once a month) with a GPS module. The application is for an

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-26 Thread shalimr9
If you cannot see the horizon because of obstructions (what else?), these obstructions are likely to be a source of multipath. So while technically you do not need to see the horizon, any obstruction above the horizon could cause problems. Of course, distant trees or a hill are less likely to

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-26 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:06:49 -0500 shali...@gmail.com wrote: Also, some antennas are better at rejecting low angle signals than others. While the software can reject some undesired signals, it can only do so if the software can identify them as separate. If the multipath signal destructively

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-26 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 26 Oct, 2012, at 08:06 , shali...@gmail.com wrote: If you cannot see the horizon because of obstructions (what else?), these obstructions are likely to be a source of multipath. So while technically you do not need to see the horizon, any obstruction above the horizon could cause

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If we are talking about timing performance of normal servers, multipath really isn't much of an issue. Unless you are running an OS with real time code (as in *not* Windows and *not* standard Linux) the timing stability isn't good enough to be bothered by the level of distortion that

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-26 Thread David
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:53:02 -0500, Dennis Ferguson dennis.c.fergu...@gmail.com wrote: Also, some antennas are better at rejecting low angle signals than others. While the software can reject some undesired signals, it can only do so if the software can identify them as separate. If the

[time-nuts] Neat Mini ovenized vcxo!

2012-10-26 Thread cdelect
Thought I'd repost this with a different subject line as I think more members will see it now! Found this neat mini Ovenized VCXO on the auction site. Check out item # 310380778466 and the data sheet at: http://www.microcrystal.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?nodeguid=8f7cfa22-c317-

Re: [time-nuts] Neat Mini ovenized vcxo!

2012-10-26 Thread paul swed
Yes indeed I know these well they are used in the Odetics GPStar rcvr. They can be disciplined quite well. Also fast warmup and the power goes down pretty quickly. Regards Paul On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: Thought I'd repost this with a different subject line as I

Re: [time-nuts] Neat Mini ovenized vcxo!

2012-10-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/26/2012 11:44 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: Thought I'd repost this with a different subject line as I think more members will see it now! Found this neat mini Ovenized VCXO on the auction site. Check out item # 310380778466 and the data sheet at:

Re: [time-nuts] Neat Mini ovenized vcxo!

2012-10-26 Thread Edgardo Molina
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Re: [time-nuts] Neat Mini ovenized vcxo!

2012-10-26 Thread Tom Miller
I made an offer of 14 pounds each for two of them that was accepted. I wonder what the temperature it runs at is? maybe put it inside another oven that uses a PTC heater. Tom - Original Message - From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation scheme...

2012-10-26 Thread Max Robinson
The frequency of 1190 indicates an AM station. I assume you mean 30 Hz. An error of 30 KHz would attract a lot of attention from Charley. Regards. Max. K 4 O DS. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net

Re: [time-nuts] Followup (still want a GPS-type NTP refclock)

2012-10-26 Thread Sarah White
On 10/17/2012 12:31 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Sarah White kuze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again everyone :) Originally I was hoping for a thunderbolt. The control / diagnostic software looked cool, but I couldn't afford the pricetag on one. ...Here's my

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation scheme...

2012-10-26 Thread Peter Gottlieb
It would attract a lot of attention from people not finding it at the right place on the dial. On 10/26/2012 10:09 PM, Max Robinson wrote: The frequency of 1190 indicates an AM station. I assume you mean 30 Hz. An error of 30 KHz would attract a lot of attention from Charley. Regards.

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation scheme...

2012-10-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Not to mention attention from the guy who *should* be 3 channels over … Bob On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net wrote: It would attract a lot of attention from people not finding it at the right place on the dial. On 10/26/2012 10:09 PM, Max Robinson wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation scheme...

2012-10-26 Thread Orin Eman
Looks like they _might_ have been 30 _Hz_ out... I had to tune to 1188.97 to get a 1kHz beat in upper sideband mode a few minutes ago but they are within 10Hz of where they are supposed to be now - according to my radio anyway (I just checked the radio against WWV at 5MHz and it was less than 10Hz

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation scheme...

2012-10-26 Thread Peter Gottlieb
I've used the HP 3586 for measuring AM carrier frequencies as well as my Tek 495P (both referenced to Rb) for higher frequencies such as air band. Some carriers are dead nuts on while others are quite far off (at least to my mind) although I've never found one outside of its required

Re: [time-nuts] SR620 VCTCXO replacement

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Garner
unfortunately, the XO supply is limited to 100 mA. that's an awesome find though. I just snagged one. -Eric On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: Hi, Check this one out! I think it might work as long as the +5 volts can source the oven current required. Your part was