[time-nuts] Monkey Time

2012-10-31 Thread dlewis6767
Appears to be opportunity for a disciplined brain in the future. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121030210339.htm ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread SAIDJACK
John, thanks for your email, I am replying to Time Nuts as well as there is a lot of knowledgeable folks here that can help. In terms of a GPSDO tutorial, take a look at the HP papers linked on the JLT website under the Links Of Interest and Related Whitepaper sections:

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread John Lofgren
Thank you very much for the thorough reply. Best Regards, John From: saidj...@aol.com [mailto:saidj...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:17 PM To: John Lofgren; time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: GPS receiver testing John, thanks for your email, I am replying to Time Nuts as well as

[time-nuts] Hackable hardware for timenuttery

2012-10-31 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
If one were to rearrange the input circuit a little bit, and give it some new firmware, this looks very close to platform for time measurement... http://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2012/10/10/preorder-now-pocket-size-antenna-analyzer-sark-110/ Ohh, and the HAMs would probably find it useful as it

Re: [time-nuts] Hackable hardware for timenuttery

2012-10-31 Thread Joseph Gray
Looks nice. Shame it doesn't go up to 500 MHz or more, though. If it did, I'd probably buy one at that price. I already have an MFJ 259B that only goes up to 170 MHz. Joe Gray W5JG On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: If one were to rearrange the input

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Magnus Danielson
John, I would advice you to look at what Spirent and Pendulum can offer you with regards to GPS simulators. The Pendulum GPS simulation should be of interest as it is a fairly decent cost, where as the Spirent equipment is really really good. One way to characterize PPS properties is to do

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread k4...@aol.com
Magnus, Most GPS simulators only have an OCXO in them which are not very good for making precision timing measurements. The simulator needs to have a rubidium in it or have an external input for a more precision frequency source. Regards,Doug Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Azelio Boriani
When I had (for a very limited time) the SMBV100A from RS loaded with the GPS simulator, I connected it to the 10MHz and PPS output of my GPSDO. Unfortunately there was not time enough to take measures... anyway the PPS output of the GPS under test aligned with the incoming PPS. On Thu, Nov 1,

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 11/01/2012 01:31 AM, k4...@aol.com wrote: Magnus, Most GPS simulators only have an OCXO in them which are not very good for making precision timing measurements. The simulator needs to have a rubidium in it or have an external input for a more precision frequency source. Not really, the GPS

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Tom Van Baak
Measuring 1PPS stability requires a counter and a reference. As Said mentioned, the counter requirement is fairly simple: any sub-nanosecond counter like a 53132A is fine (higher resolution is wasted anyway). But the reference requirement is the more difficult. If you want to measure down to

Re: [time-nuts] Hackable hardware for timenuttery

2012-10-31 Thread Don Latham
Preorder? ...for the sark was a boojum, you see ... Don Poul-Henning Kamp If one were to rearrange the input circuit a little bit, and give it some new firmware, this looks very close to platform for time measurement...

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Jim Lux
Hello Said, I'm familiar with your postings on the Time Nuts list, so I thought I'd ask your advice. I searched the Time Nuts archive, but didn't come up with what I was looking for (reference to a good GPS tutotial). We have a GPS project in-house that requires us to characterize

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/31/12 6:17 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: Please read John Plumb's paper: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper29.pdf and Rick Hambly's paper: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper9.pdf At JPL, most of the calibration and performance testing and such is done using an