Re: [time-nuts] Identify RFTGM-II-XO Part

2018-01-10 Thread paul swed
Pat Here is my thought. Everything may be just fine actually. This looks like the same approach used on older technology even the transistor. Its job is to run class AB1 and boost the signal to something like +27 dbm. Lots of power. The reason is these then typically drive a passive 8 or 16 way

Re: [time-nuts] Identify RFTGM-II-XO Part

2018-01-10 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I would second Paul’s input. Is the unit actually working at the moment? Some of the circuits in these gizmos *do* run pretty hot in normal operation. If there is a problem with that device, before I paid $67 for the replacement part (or anything close to that) I probably would convert it

Re: [time-nuts] Identify RFTGM-II-XO Part

2018-01-10 Thread David G. McGaw
Hi Dan, That would be a MMIC amplifier.  Transistors have Q reference designators.  U's are ICs.  Take a look on the other side for markings.  It appears to have been mounted upside-down. David N1HAC On 1/10/18 12:22 PM, Dan Kemppainen wrote: Patrick, It's possible that's one of the

Re: [time-nuts] RFTG RF Transistor - Identify RFTGM-II-XO Part (grosz)

2018-01-10 Thread Patrick Murphy
Thanks for the idea, Francis. I hadn't considered that. I'll keep that in my kit bag as I work to resolve this. And I agree the temperatures of the regulator and transistor are connected. I believe the regulator is providing the bias. Given the output is some 27DB, that is a lot of dissipation for

Re: [time-nuts] Identify RFTGM-II-XO Part

2018-01-10 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Patrick, It's possible that's one of the integrated RF amps, and not just an RF transistor. You should be able to tell by tracing out the circuit. The inputs and outputs will typically be capacitor coupled, with DC fed to the output through a chip inductor or similar choke and resistor.

[time-nuts] Identify RFTGM-II-XO Part

2018-01-10 Thread Arthur Dent
If I recall there are 2 MMIC chips, the large one you mention (U105) and a smaller black plastic one (U100) to the left of the big one and to the right of the 15 Mhz crystal filter. Just above the chips you will see 2 inductors marked L101 and L102 that supply the d.c. power to the chips. The

Re: [time-nuts] hp 5245L counters with 10544 and 10811 OCXOs

2018-01-10 Thread Tom Van Baak
And for anyone working on the 10544 oscillator, Charles Steinmetz writes: > The errors HP made in the 10544 schematics are grave enough that it may > be a good idea to post my corrected schematic wherever folks who need to > work on the oscillators are likely to look for service information, so