Re: [time-nuts] 4046 replacement

2018-05-07 Thread donald collie
Question : In the 74HCT9046BCN - does a high on the inhibit line Knobble the P/F detectors as well as the VCO? On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:34 PM, donald collie <donaldbcol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thankyou to all who responded to my querie - I`ve got 5 74HCT9046BCN on a > slow boa

Re: [time-nuts] 4046 replacement

2018-05-07 Thread donald collie
Thankyou to all who responded to my querie - I`ve got 5 74HCT9046BCN on a slow boat from China. They will retrofit the projects where I used a 4046 without much pcb surgery. PLL`s are fun, especially when yo can watch them lock on a Tek 7834 :-) I interloaned the weighty tome again, and am

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-06 Thread donald collie
So to be lowest noise, an oscillator should have the highest Q resonator possible in its feedback loop, operate in class "A" [for maximum linearity], and utilise active amplifier device(s) that contribute the least noise [both amplitude, or 1/f], and phase. This latter implies operating the active

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-07 Thread donald collie
Does any limiter, soft or hard, [and perhaps any nonlinearity of power term 3 or greater in the amplifier of an oscillator] cause the "baseband 1/f noise to translate up to the resonator frequency [a form of crossmodulation]?. I wonder this because phase noise vs freq plots look a bit like the

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-07 Thread donald collie
...Don. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:02 AM, donald collie <donaldbcol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does any limiter, soft or hard, [and perhaps any nonlinearity of power > term 3 or greater in t

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-07 Thread donald collie
Wien bridge and bridged T oscillators often use a thermistor [lamp] to set the amplitude below saturation, for low distortion, but i`ve seen the diode AGC method used. Conversely, you could use a thermistor to set the output of a crystal or L/C oscillator. One other method seems to be to let

[time-nuts] Dual GPSDO - any advantage?

2018-04-10 Thread donald collie
I`ve just bought two GPSDO`s from China @ US$9-50 each [This is not an error!] They are stated as being new, and use a Trimball dual oven OCXO. I plan to run these in parallel [2 antennas, 2 feedlines, and 2 GPSDO`s] It`s been said that a man with two watches is never happy - unless, of course,

Re: [time-nuts] Dual GPSDO - any advantage?

2018-04-10 Thread donald collie
nna. You > *could* > > average the result off of the two. That might improve things by sqrt(2). > My > > experience is that the bumps and lumps (when they do occur) are not the > > sort > > of thing that averages out nicely….. > > > > Bob > > > > &

[time-nuts] 4046 replacement

2018-04-18 Thread donald collie
I have 4 frequency synthesiser projects, each using HEF4046BCN`s, but have recently read that this CMOS IC has a design flaw. What would be a better chip to retrofit? I`m thinking perhaps a HEF74HC4046AN [that`s if it doesn`t have the same bug], or a 74HC7046AN - which is similar. Both these

Re: [time-nuts] 4046 replacement

2018-04-18 Thread donald collie
could consider the NXP 74HCT9046A as a replacement. It is an improved > version of 4046. However, you do need to study the spec sheet as it is a > bit different, but in a good way. > > I have included an attached PDF of the spec sheet, if it makes through the > mail list server. > >