[time-nuts] Injection locking interconnect

2012-06-28 Thread Bill Dailey
Guys, I am looking for info on injection locking. I have been searching around for info. I found an article that probably answers my question but I can't get to it. http://www.oldcitypublishing.com/FullText/JAPEDfulltext/JAPED2.1fulltext/11-24pp%20GC05-06%20%28Rajput%29.pdf Can anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking interconnect

2012-06-28 Thread Jim Lux
On 6/28/12 3:07 PM, Bill Dailey wrote: Guys, I am looking for info on injection locking. I have been searching around for info. I found an article that probably answers my question but I can't get to it.

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking interconnect

2012-06-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bill, On 06/29/2012 12:07 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: Guys, I am looking for info on injection locking. I have been searching around for info. I found an article that probably answers my question but I can't get to it.

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking interconnect

2012-06-28 Thread Jim Lux
On 6/28/12 3:22 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Bill, On 06/29/2012 12:07 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: Guys, I am looking for info on injection locking. I have been searching around for info. I found an article that probably answers my question but I can't get to it.

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking interconnect

2012-06-28 Thread Don Latham
Don't run it over your toes! snip There's an interesting paper out there using a bunch (half dozen?) magnetrons as a microwave weed killer, where they all locked to each other, so the power was appropriately combined with minimal loss. ___

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking interconnect

2012-06-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 06/29/2012 01:37 AM, Jim Lux wrote: On 6/28/12 3:22 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Bill, On 06/29/2012 12:07 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: Guys, I am looking for info on injection locking. I have been searching around for info. I found an article that probably answers my question but I can't get to

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking

2010-02-11 Thread Rex
Kit Scally wrote: ... On a related topic, I found some while ago - and promptly lost - a graph/chart showing harmonic level variations with varying duty-cycle of an input waveform. This was to some degree a graphical representation of the Wenzel document referenced by Bruce recently. Has

Re: [time-nuts] injection locking

2010-02-11 Thread Joop
Kit VK2LL wrote: Theory suggests that lock sensitivity could be improved in this instance if the 10MHz duty cycle was changed from 1:1 to 6 or 7:1, the idea being that the narrower pulse should be 0.5 period of the frequency of the oscillator to be locked. Ah, that triggers some thought. I know

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking

2010-02-11 Thread Didier Juges
, 11 Feb 2010 02:09:48 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking Kit Scally wrote: ... On a related topic, I found some while ago - and promptly lost - a graph/chart showing harmonic level variations with varying duty

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking

2010-02-11 Thread Bob Camp
- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Didier Juges Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:42 AM To: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking This link will show you the effect of duty cycle on harmonic content: http://www.ko4bb.com

[time-nuts] injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Joop
You can even build an injection locked divide by 5 stage. Choosing the right oscillator topology and injection method allows high level injection to be used with an LC oscillator. Bruce Are there references to some practical circuits? That would be great. A google search on injection locking

Re: [time-nuts] injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi That's the problem. There's no debate that you can injection lock oscillators. The problem is that the analytic side of designing an injection lock system is a bit lacking. With a PLL there's an over abundance of information on how to do the design, how to analyze it, and how to test

Re: [time-nuts] injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Bob Camp wrote: That's the problem. There's no debate that you can injection lock oscillators. The problem is that the analytic side of designing an injection lock system is a bit lacking. Rohde has in [1] a deluge of math on mutually coupled resonators and oscillators, including noise

Re: [time-nuts] injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Ulrich Bangert
von Joop Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 13:50 An: time-nuts@febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] injection locking You can even build an injection locked divide by 5 stage. Choosing the right oscillator topology and injection method allows high level injection to be used with an LC

Re: [time-nuts] injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Joop
Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] Im Auftrag von Joop Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 13:50 An: time-nuts at febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] injection locking You can even build an injection locked divide by 5 stage. Choosing

[time-nuts] Injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Kit Scally
Hi, As others have already noted, there's a paucity of circuits or down to earth advice on this topic - unless your poison is millimetre wave technology. I set out to GPS-lock my Icom 706 transceiver some while ago. This uses a (single) hi-stability master 30MHz xtal oscillator. With support

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Kit Scally Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Cc: Kit Scally Subject: [time-nuts] Injection locking Hi, As others have already noted, there's

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking

2010-02-10 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Kit Scally Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Cc: Kit Scally Subject: [time-nuts] Injection locking Hi, As others have already noted

[time-nuts] Injection Locking

2010-02-02 Thread Murray Greenman
Frank, As Bruce suggests, you can in theory lock any rational number ratio, including 11/5 and 21/5. However, the locking gain drops off as the ratio becomes more extreme, and thus the lock range and potential stability are degraded. Yes, you could certainly use a regenerative divider to