Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
Hi Unless they picked it up and moved it, Dana is in Indiana not Illinois :)... Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:45 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners) Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal. GRI 89700 microseconds station: AUTO (M) location: DANA, IL USA Receiver locked Tracking Loran-C signal Receiver gain: 77dB Noise margin: 39 dB Loran Freq offset: -1.1E-10 Phase: -17.9 deg Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB) M59* X56 Time since lock: 0:21:40 ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I did a new search) Length last unlock: 0:10:42 Signal status: a r b n o I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in the back yard. Receiver firmware is 1.19 As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the Tracor 527E. It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with. The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs reference in my shack. Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr XXXx ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
Stan good documentation I also copied it last night and posted. Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work past 11pm. The system is not on at all times. At least thats what I am seeing. Regards Paul WB8TSL Boston On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners) Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal. GRI 89700 microseconds station: AUTO (M) location: DANA, IL USA Receiver locked Tracking Loran-C signal Receiver gain: 77dB Noise margin: 39 dB Loran Freq offset: -1.1E-10 Phase: -17.9 deg Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB) M59* X56 Time since lock: 0:21:40 ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I did a new search) Length last unlock: 0:10:42 Signal status: a r b n o I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in the back yard. Receiver firmware is 1.19 As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the Tracor 527E. It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with. The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs reference in my shack. Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr XXXx __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
Hail to the US institutions which first stopped LORAN action long enough so that pricy but apparently useless equipment could enter the shacks of European time nuts for peanuts. Hail to the US institutions for reawakening LORAN so that is is there for you US based time nuts again. The Tracor may be the better solution but for a quick check the built in phase comparator of the FS700 is more than adequate. My comparisons between my GPS based GPSDO and the FS700 (using the German Sylt chain) show frequency differences 10E-12 over observation times of some hours or so with the built in comparator. 73s and my congrats to LORAN Ulrich, DF6JB Am 20.03.2012 um 15:51 schrieb paul swed: Stan good documentation I also copied it last night and posted. Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work past 11pm. The system is not on at all times. At least thats what I am seeing. Regards Paul WB8TSL Boston On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners) Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal. GRI 89700 microseconds station: AUTO (M) location: DANA, IL USA Receiver locked Tracking Loran-C signal Receiver gain: 77dB Noise margin: 39 dB Loran Freq offset: -1.1E-10 Phase: -17.9 deg Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB) M59* X56 Time since lock: 0:21:40 ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I did a new search) Length last unlock: 0:10:42 Signal status: a r b n o I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in the back yard. Receiver firmware is 1.19 As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the Tracor 527E. It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with. The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs reference in my shack. Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr XXXx __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg1 27243 Gross Ippener Deutschland Tel +49 (0)4224 95071 Fax +49 (0)4224 95072 Mob +49 (0)172 8006546 www.ulrich-bangert.de ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
Sometimes, it pays to just sit on your butt. I never took my Austron loop down or the 2100F out of the rack. :))) -John == Hail to the US institutions which first stopped LORAN action long enough so that pricy but apparently useless equipment could enter the shacks of European time nuts for peanuts. Hail to the US institutions for reawakening LORAN so that is is there for you US based time nuts again. The Tracor may be the better solution but for a quick check the built in phase comparator of the FS700 is more than adequate. My comparisons between my GPS based GPSDO and the FS700 (using the German Sylt chain) show frequency differences 10E-12 over observation times of some hours or so with the built in comparator. 73s and my congrats to LORAN Ulrich, DF6JB Am 20.03.2012 um 15:51 schrieb paul swed: Stan good documentation I also copied it last night and posted. Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work past 11pm. The system is not on at all times. At least thats what I am seeing. Regards Paul WB8TSL Boston On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners) Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal. GRI 89700 microseconds station: AUTO (M) location: DANA, IL USA Receiver locked Tracking Loran-C signal Receiver gain: 77dB Noise margin: 39 dB Loran Freq offset: -1.1E-10 Phase: -17.9 deg Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB) M59* X56 Time since lock: 0:21:40 ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I did a new search) Length last unlock: 0:10:42 Signal status: a r b n o I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in the back yard. Receiver firmware is 1.19 As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the Tracor 527E. It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with. The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs reference in my shack. Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr XXXx __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg1 27243 Gross Ippener Deutschland Tel +49 (0)4224 95071 Fax +49 (0)4224 95072 Mob +49 (0)172 8006546 www.ulrich-bangert.de ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
On 3/20/2012 10:51 AM, J. Forster wrote: Sometimes, it pays to just sit on your butt. I never took my Austron loop down or the 2100F out of the rack. :))) -John == Alson have lockup of austron 2100R in northwest Illinois en42. Don wa9ylp Hail to the US institutions which first stopped LORAN action long enough so that pricy but apparently useless equipment could enter the shacks of European time nuts for peanuts. Hail to the US institutions for reawakening LORAN so that is is there for you US based time nuts again. The Tracor may be the better solution but for a quick check the built in phase comparator of the FS700 is more than adequate. My comparisons between my GPS based GPSDO and the FS700 (using the German Sylt chain) show frequency differences10E-12 over observation times of some hours or so with the built in comparator. 73s and my congrats to LORAN Ulrich, DF6JB Am 20.03.2012 um 15:51 schrieb paul swed: Stan good documentation I also copied it last night and posted. Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work past 11pm. The system is not on at all times. At least thats what I am seeing. Regards Paul WB8TSL Boston On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LEstanw...@verizon.net wrote: Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners) Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal. GRI 89700 microseconds station: AUTO (M) location: DANA, IL USA Receiver locked Tracking Loran-C signal Receiver gain: 77dB Noise margin: 39 dB Loran Freq offset: -1.1E-10 Phase: -17.9 deg Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB) M59* X56 Time since lock: 0:21:40 ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I did a new search) Length last unlock: 0:10:42 Signal status: a r b n o I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in the back yard. Receiver firmware is 1.19 As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the Tracor 527E. It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with. The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs reference in my shack. Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr XXXx __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg1 27243 Gross Ippener Deutschland Tel +49 (0)4224 95071 Fax +49 (0)4224 95072 Mob +49 (0)172 8006546 www.ulrich-bangert.de ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain? 73, Bill WA2DVU -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:45 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners) Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal. GRI 89700 microseconds station: AUTO (M) location: DANA, IL USA Receiver locked Tracking Loran-C signal Receiver gain: 77dB Noise margin: 39 dB Loran Freq offset: -1.1E-10 Phase: -17.9 deg Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB) M59* X56 Time since lock: 0:21:40 ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I did a new search) Length last unlock: 0:10:42 Signal status: a r b n o I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in the back yard. Receiver firmware is 1.19 As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the Tracor 527E. It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with. The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs reference in my shack. Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr XXXx ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
The Wildwood, NJ tech center could be part of the 9930 or the 9960 chains. It was only sporadically on. As testing dictated, not a normal operation site. I have not listened to these GRIs. I hope to configure to use the single antenna with multiple Loran-C receives. Have to ponder that action Difficulty is that one receiver has to be dedicated to a single GRI. 89700 (microsecond GRI) is till coming in with Dana, IL as master and Seneca, NY as the X slave. Stan, W1LECape Cod On 3/20/2012 4:09 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain? 73, Bill WA2DVU ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
Thanks Stan I told the austron to use the master. Suspect I would get a nice increase by using the secondary. Will have to try that. I built an active splitter some years ago to drive up to 6 rcvrs. Essentially a single opamp gain stage then a opamp as a buffer for each coax out. Simple dumb and works well. The gain stage simply makes up a spot of gain for the 140' of coax to the shack and the splitting. Think it was a gain of 2-3 as I recall. Did the same thing in the same case for WWVB rcvrs. Lets me run them all if I want. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: The Wildwood, NJ tech center could be part of the 9930 or the 9960 chains. It was only sporadically on. As testing dictated, not a normal operation site. I have not listened to these GRIs. I hope to configure to use the single antenna with multiple Loran-C receives. Have to ponder that action Difficulty is that one receiver has to be dedicated to a single GRI. 89700 (microsecond GRI) is till coming in with Dana, IL as master and Seneca, NY as the X slave. Stan, W1LECape Cod On 3/20/2012 4:09 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain? 73, Bill WA2DVU __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod
On 3/20/2012 9:24 PM, Stan, W1LE wrote: The Wildwood, NJ tech center could be part of the 9930 or the 9960 chains. It was only sporadically on. As testing dictated, not a normal operation site. I have not listened to these GRIs. I hope to configure to use the single antenna with multiple Loran-C receives. Have to ponder that action Difficulty is that one receiver has to be dedicated to a single GRI. 89700 (microsecond GRI) is till coming in with Dana, IL as master and Seneca, NY as the X slave. Stan, W1LECape Cod On 3/20/2012 4:09 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain? 73, Bill WA2DVU ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. If I am not mistaken Dana is not in Illinois it is in Indiana. Still receiving at 2200 hrs local. Don ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
