Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-16 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Hello Dave, being 'time-nuts', it is of course to know the time of day to the nanosecond! That said, I truly believe there are only two wristwatches out there for the serious time-nutter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/846511652/the-worlds-first-true-atomic-wristwatch-the-cesium/updates

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Tim Shoppa
Dana, the magnetic impulse of a quartz watch stepping the second hand forward is easily picked up by an unshielded coil. Wind a couple hundred turns of magnet wire around a bottle cap and hold near the watch face. Plug into the microphone input of a PC and run audacity to record the waveform.

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The most common way to pull the 32KHz signal off of a watch is via a tuned microphone. At least that’s the way we did it in production. A watch crystal *can* (but usually doesn’t) move > 100 PPM with temperature. When things are set up, assumptions are made about “your” temperature

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Dana Whitlow
Most of the quartz watches I've owned were off by about 1-2 minutes per month, which I consider inexcusable. Agreed, the mechanical trimmer is rather problematical, but I'd sure like to see *something *that the sophisticated user can tweak at home. Measurement of the current rate error is

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Mar 15, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Dana Whitlow wrote: > > I concur with Bill. And even if one keeps tabs on the current watch error, > as is the usual practice by celestial navigators, once that error reaches > or exceeds more than a minute the process frankly gets more

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Bob kb8tq
om> > Date :14/03/2018 22:40 (GMT+01:00) > A : Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Objet : Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation > > Nice but lacks "day” feature (has “date”). I don’t normally care whether > it’s th

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Dana Whitlow
I concur with Bill. And even if one keeps tabs on the current watch error, as is the usual practice by celestial navigators, once that error reaches or exceeds more than a minute the process frankly gets more clumsy and error prone. And if a watch drifts in time very rapidly, one loses faith in

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-14 Thread Bill Byrom
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > What is the most demanding task one would use a wrist watch for? It depends on your job or hobby. During the Apollo 13 rocket burn before their emergency re-entry, Jack Swigert used a wrist watch to time the retrorocket burn which was

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-14 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
ssion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Objet : Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation Nice but lacks "day” feature (has “date”). I don’t normally care whether it’s the 22nd or the 23rd but it’s nice to know whether it’s Tuesday or Wednesday. YMMV, of c

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 5 March 2018 at 16:50, William H. Fite wrote: > And that is just my point--well, part of it, anyway--ultra-precise > measurement of time is profoundly important, and rightly the primary focus > of this group. But for the wrist, very, very few of us need pin-point >

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-14 Thread Jeremy Nichols
Nice but lacks "day” feature (has “date”). I don’t normally care whether it’s the 22nd or the 23rd but it’s nice to know whether it’s Tuesday or Wednesday. YMMV, of course. Jeremy On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:57 PM Achim Vollhardt wrote: > Dear Don and all, > no mentioning

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-14 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Dear Don and all, no mentioning of the Seiko Astron GPS Solar? http://www.seiko-astron.com/ 73s Achim DH2VA ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-06 Thread Pete Stephenson
On 3/5/2018 7:38 AM, Don Murray via time-nuts wrote: > So, Time Nuts... any suggestions or recommendations? For non-formal, day-to-day wear, I've been partial to Casio G-Shock watches for a long time. They're rugged, reliable, and have the basic features one might want: stopwatch, countdown

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-06 Thread J. L. Trantham
Don, I am very pleased with the performance of my CITIZEN Eco-Drive SKYHAWK. It can receive WWVB (USA), JJY (Japan), or DCF77 (Germany). I am convinced it is accurate to within 1 second at all times. It is a 'Blue Angels' watch, part of the NaviHawk series I think.

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Tom Knox
behalf of Nick Sayer via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:13 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation Lots of folks have chimed in on this thread, but I will just add that the Apple wat

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Nick Sayer via time-nuts
Lots of folks have chimed in on this thread, but I will just add that the Apple watch is an NTP client. I’m extremely happy with mine, but the reasons I am are far, far wider than its accuracy (which I can only judge by eye, which is an extraordinary low bar for a Time Nut). > On Mar 4, 2018,

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread William H. Fite
And that is just my point--well, part of it, anyway--ultra-precise measurement of time is profoundly important, and rightly the primary focus of this group. But for the wrist, very, very few of us need pin-point accuracy--though many seem to perceive that we do. My Tissot mechanical chronograph is

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Adrian Godwin
Eurochron (I believe they're low-end brand of Junghams) make a plastic DCF77 watch. 'Plastic' doesn't do it justice - although the one I had eventually wore away, it was attractive and well made and lasted for several years. I think this is the WWVB equivalent.

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Larry McDavid
I really don't want a conductive metal-case watch on my arm. What I do want is a light-weight, thin watch with day, date and analog display with sweep second hand. Not digital... Ok, that may be old-fashioned but it suits me. I've never found a suitable wwvb watch. So, I opt for an

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:45:51 -0800 Jerry Hancock wrote: > An by the way, I also have a Tissot P-touch as a retirement gift from IBM. > Got the watch, as they say. I can say it is very accurate for a non- > disciplined watch if you wear it every day. Even if you do not wear

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Jerry Hancock
An by the way, I also have a Tissot P-touch as a retirement gift from IBM. Got the watch, as they say. I can say it is very accurate for a non-disciplined watch if you wear it every day. Regards, Jerry Jerry Hancock je...@hanler.com (415) 215-3779 > On Mar 5, 2018, at 2:44 AM, Attila

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Jerry Hancock
If you are into rugged, I have a casio atomic solar that special forces use… I was able to tail-end a gov’t contract and got it for cheap. aren’t we silly. Regards, Jerry Jerry Hancock je...@hanler.com (415) 215-3779 > On Mar 4, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Don Murray via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread William H. Fite
For those of us whose time-nuttery extends into the fascinating world of mechanical watches and clocks, the kind of accuracy usually discussed here is not only impossible but essentially irrelevant (quelle horreur!). Our interest is in the beauty and elegance of micromechanical devices that have

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 05.03.2018 um 14:01 schrieb Bob kb8tq: If you want to stick with WWV, the Citizen “Ecco Drive” (solar) WWVB ECO-Drive watches are a pretty good option. Until I caved in to the wonders of a cell phone on my wrist, I used them for many years. Nothing to fuss with. No battery to die on you.

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Mar 5, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Don Murray via time-nuts > wrote: > > Hello Time Nuts... > > > > After 6 years of no troubles, in sync with WWV any > hour of the day, flawless transfer between > standard and daylight time my Stauer Titanium > Atomic wristwatch bite

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 01:38:06 -0500 Don Murray via time-nuts wrote: > So it looks as if I am in need of a new wristwatch, > which will give me some kind of time accuracy. I've owned several Swatch and Tissot over the past decades, Growing up in Switzerland does that to you.

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Bill Beam
Even my pre civil war pocket watches should be good enough for your needs. Better than a minute/day. But for some (many) time-nuts it's about wants, not needs. My clocks and watches that can be heard across the room qualify me as old school time nut. (My DOB qualifies me as just plain old.)

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Bill S
I wore a Casio "Atomic" watch and it set itself reliably for many years until very recently. They are still available.  I've replaced it with a Seiko Solar "Radio" watch which I understand has a better wwvb receiver in it. Haven't worn it yet so I'm not sure how it will perform but I've heard

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Don Murray via time-nuts
Hi Bill...   My Rolex GMT Master was stolen back in '75, so no luck on that.  Rolex is a bit pricey for my needs.   My Seiko CQ001M, one of the first Seiko Digitals, was amazing.  Over the time I had it, it varied less than plus/minus 1 second against WWV.  I carried a Radio Shack Time Kube with

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-04 Thread Bill Beam
My 37 year old Rolex day-date gains less than 2 sec/day compared to GPS clock. Rolex standard is +6/-2 sec/day. Regards, NL7F On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 01:38:06 -0500, Don Murray via time-nuts wrote: >Hello Time Nuts... >-  >After 6 years of no troubles, in sync with WWV any >hour of the day,