Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Patrick Tudor
On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I've added some features to it like a 2 line by 16 character LCD display and some status LEDs. And I can log data to a computer via a USB cable so it is easy to plot data and it is using my more

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Dec 14, 2014, at 12:47 AM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to see just how simple, low cost and self contained I could make a GPSDO. I started with the Lars Walenius design then removed everything I could from it. I replace all the software with just a

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Chris Albertson
It's not worth making a PCB, not when you can buy the whole thing already assembled for $3 with free shipping. I use these just as if they where a single chip and put them in a socket. See eBay 141505833625 as an example. Those holes are in 0.1 inch centers so you can figure out the size. (I

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Dave Daniel
Well, thanks, everyone, for the information. I appreciate the help. First, I am presently not up to adding another project to my long list of projects. I get whiplash every time I walk into the lab. Building a GPSDO sound like fun. Perhaps down the line. I figured I should add some

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok so down to two choices: LTE Lite: 1) Comes up nice and fast (it’s a TCXO) 2) Modern GPS receiver 3) Good documentation 4) Very low power 5) Nice small size 6) Needs a box 7) You know where to find Jackson Labs if there is a problem 8) Getting a couple more in a couple years may

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Dave Daniel
Thanks. See below: On 12/14/2014 1:48 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ok so down to two choices: LTE Lite: 1) Comes up nice and fast (it’s a TCXO) 2) Modern GPS receiver 3) Good documentation 4) Very low power 5) Nice small size Good so far. 6) Needs a box Boxes I have. 7) You know where

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Dec 14, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Dave Daniel kc0...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. See below: On 12/14/2014 1:48 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ok so down to two choices: LTE Lite: 1) Comes up nice and fast (it’s a TCXO) 2) Modern GPS receiver 3) Good documentation 4) Very low power

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Joseph Gray
I don't mean to one up Chris, but if you are looking for inexpensive, I have bought the same Pro Mini from this seller for $2.58. Like Chris says, you can't buy the parts this for this. And if you need the 3.3 VDC version: http://www.ebay.com/itm/191182699659 I bought six of the Pro Mini's from

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-14 Thread Joseph Gray
I have to watch what I'm typing a little closer. I meant to say You can't buy the parts this cheap. Joe Gray W5JG On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: It's not worth making a PCB, not when you can buy the whole thing already assembled for $3 with

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 13 December 2014 at 06:55, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Or get a more modern using such as the LTE-Lite evaluation kit. I see a 19.2 MHz version as item 171504588307, but 10 MHz and 20 MHz versions have also been made available. It's a lot smaller and lighter than

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Chris Albertson
one other option if just using this for a lab reference is to build one. You'd need a working GPS receive and almost any OCXO. Then the extra parts are under $10. and it's simple enough that you don't need a circuit printed board. Years ago a GPSDO controller was a complex beast using many ICs

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Neil Schroeder
Of Hal Murray Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:49 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net javascript:; Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy? kc0...@gmail.com javascript:; said: For a newcomer to this field, which GPSDO would

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Lizeth Norman
:;] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:49 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net javascript:; Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy? kc0...@gmail.com javascript:; said: For a newcomer to this field, which GPSDO

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Bob Camp
:;] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:49 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net javascript:; Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy? kc0...@gmail.com javascript:; said: For a newcomer to this field, which

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Jim Harman
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: The problem with “build it yourself” is that there is no way do know if you got it right unless you have something to compare your design to. You *will* make mistakes as you build one of these…. I think you will have the same

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Chris Albertson
I tried to see just how simple, low cost and self contained I could make a GPSDO. I started with the Lars Walenius design then removed everything I could from it. I replace all the software with just a small loop with about a dozen lines of code so it would be easy to understand. My goal was to

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-13 Thread Joseph Gray
Do you have the details on your stripped down version posted somewhere accessable? Joe Gray W5JG On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to see just how simple, low cost and self contained I could make a GPSDO. I started with the Lars

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-12 Thread paul swed
Dave welcome to the time nuts. Oh the question we all wonder about. What should I buy? It depends on the need and the key question is what do you need to do. A reference is a mighty wide statement on this forum. Is it ham radio... Its easy to get bitten by the accuracy bug. Its starts out simple

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi A couple of differences: 1) The Lucent is a two box system, the GPSTM is a single box 2) The GPSTM is 1/2 of an operating pair. The Lucent ($150 version) is a full pair. 3) Both units are “fixed coefficient” boxes. Neither one can be modified (the way a T Bolt can). 4) The GPSTM works

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-12 Thread Hal Murray
kc0...@gmail.com said: For a newcomer to this field, which GPSDO would be better to purchase as a first-time acquisition: ... I'd suggest the Lucent KS24361. Lots of people here have them so it will be easy to get advice. Aside from the GPSDO, you also need a power supply and antenna,

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-12 Thread Anthony Roby
...@megapathdsl.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy? kc0...@gmail.com said: For a newcomer to this field, which GPSDO would be better to purchase as a first-time acquisition: ... I'd suggest the Lucent KS24361. Lots of people here have them so it will be easy to get advice

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
the group here. Anthony -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:49 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO

Re: [time-nuts] Which First GPSDO to buy?

2014-12-12 Thread David J Taylor
All, As a relative newcomer to this list, I have been reading the posts concerning GPSDOs. I have what I hope is a simple question. For a newcomer to this field, which GPSDO would be better to purchase as a first-time acquisition: - This LUCENT/SYMMETRICOM Z3810AS, KS24361 L101/L102, HP-KIO