Re: [time-nuts] multipath on GPS

2014-08-09 Thread Azelio Boriani
What about using cables to simulate the reflector? Connecting the antenna to the receiver using a splitter, two very different length cables and then a combiner at the receiver's input. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: Does anyone have a feel for what the

Re: [time-nuts] multipath on GPS

2014-08-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
Jim, On 08/08/2014 09:39 PM, Jim Lux wrote: Does anyone have a feel for what the minimum size reflector at some small distance would be detectable on a GPS timing receiver? WOuld you be able to see a change of a 1 meter square reflector 10 meters away? It depends. Your question is

Re: [time-nuts] multipath on GPS

2014-08-09 Thread Azelio Boriani
To take out the reflection angle variation between satellite and reflector, I think that using cables can help, so that it is possible to experiment with the multipath sensitivity of the receiver. The experiment then can continue using a real reflector. The satellites' position is known and maybe

Re: [time-nuts] multipath on GPS

2014-08-09 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.it wrote: What about using cables to simulate the reflector? Connecting the antenna to the receiver using a splitter, two very different length cables and then a combiner at the receiver's input. That is a very unrealistic

Re: [time-nuts] multipath on GPS

2014-08-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi …. back to “that depends”…. When you have a sat at just the right point *and* you are tracking that sat *and* it’s a significant part of your solution - you get a multi path issue. Then the question becomes how good your particular receiver is at rejecting multi path. You can indeed do a

Re: [time-nuts] multipath on GPS

2014-08-09 Thread Chris Albertson
My experience with radar tells me it depends a lot on the geometry. For example a perfectly flat mirror-like reflector would only give trouble for an instant when the angle was correct It would give very bright reflection but then the satellite would move and then it would give no reflection.

Re: [time-nuts] multipath on GPS

2014-08-08 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: Does anyone have a feel for what the minimum size reflector at some small distance would be detectable on a GPS timing receiver? WOuld you be able to see a change of a 1 meter square reflector 10 meters away? I suspect it depends on the elevation angle of the