Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Denny Page via time-nuts
Thanks Mark. For the cost, this seems like a worthwhile thing to try. I don’t think the homeowners association would be too thrilled about a pizza pan on a pole so I’ll probably have to do without. Besides, If I mounted a pizza pan I would also endure endless teasing from from my wife who

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The thing I’m not quite understanding here - why in the world use an antenna that needs a ground plane when you can get one that does not need an external ground plane? I have three multi band GNSS antennas on the back of the house. They all get down to insane error circles (like a mm)

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Achim Gratz
Denny Page via time-nuts writes: > Thanks Mark. For the cost, this seems like a worthwhile thing to > try. I don’t think the homeowners association would be too thrilled > about a pizza pan on a pole so I’ll probably have to do without. Use a resonant ground plane with four or eight tuned radials

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Wind load is not a good thing when you are putting things way up in the air on poles. Survival will be much more likely if you don’t have to attach a great big sail to the antenna …. Bob > On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Denny Page via time-nuts > wrote: > > Thanks Mark. For the cost,

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread John Marvin
Just tell your neighbors that you "cut the cord" and it is a new fangled miracle "Digital" amplified UHF TV antenna. Any outside TV antenna falls under the FCC OTARD exceptions, and your homeowners association can't do a thing about it. :) John On 1/30/2019 9:38 AM, Denny Page via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread jimlux
On 1/30/19 8:38 AM, Denny Page via time-nuts wrote: Thanks Mark. For the cost, this seems like a worthwhile thing to try. I don’t think the homeowners association would be too thrilled about a pizza pan on a pole so I’ll probably have to do without. Besides, If I mounted a pizza pan I would

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Mark Goldberg
Put a "Bird Feeder" on the side of the house. Even only seeing less than 1/2 the sky, this is doing OK with just a TruePosition L1 GPS, always 7-8 sats. I have room for two antennas on the ground plane, only have one and am using an HP 58515A active splitter. Hopefully the attachment comes

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Mark Goldberg
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 1:00 PM Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > The thing I’m not quite understanding here - why in the world use an > antenna that needs > a ground plane when you can get one that does not need an external ground > plane? > > What can I say, that antenna was $5.45, locally picked up

[time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Mark Sims
I don't know if that Chinese multi-band antenna needs a ground plane/pizza pan. My antenna mount tripod has one handy, so I am using it.My first tests were without the pan and I didn't notice any before/after differences but did not do any extensive testing. The CSRS-PPP position error

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-30 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:29:20 +0100 Achim Gratz wrote: > Typically if they already have a ground plane mounted it's between > 6cm…10cm in diameter (or side length if quadratic). Over that size you > shouldn't see much effect anymore on the antenna sensitivity pattern, There is quite a big