Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 4:50 PM paul swed wrote: > Mobile phone time is good enough. And is often pretty darn good. Should WWVB go off the air (and it's far from certain that it will), there might be a market for a USB dongle that plugs into a PC that outputs the correct code on 60 kHz. I'm

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

I don’t know if it’s on-topic or not, but my talking clock now has a WWV #define for the firmware. Mind you, all that really does is change it to 59 ticks and one beep and a single time announcement in the last 10 seconds of the minute. https://hackaday.io/project/28949-gps-talking-clock > On

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

This has ‘empty suit’ written all over it ,’move it to the $BUZZWORD Yes the LORAN shutdown was more impactful from a time transfer PoV but the NIST transmitters provide a crude backup and valuable scientific data with a long baseline In NH we’ve had an unusually severe summer WRT weather

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

I used to live in Miami and now 80 miles north in homes made of steel  reinforced concrete blocks. Junghans considered Miami worse case in the US and came there before introduction of their wrist watch with antenna in the arm band.. The Junghans clocks have worked flawless since then with

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

On 8/12/18 4:05 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote: Group, This subject needs some additional detail. I found an article with comments at https://swling.com/blog/2018/08/nist-fy2019-budget-includes-request-to-shutdown-wwv-and-wwvh/ It is not clear whether WWVB will still be available for all of our

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

While consumer WWVB clocks are widespread today, almost all (or all) professional clock displays have shifted to NTP over copper or over sometimes WIFI in the past decade. WWVB or WWV, without an external antenna, was never a good choice for a clock in a steel building to begin with. 30 years

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

And don't forget 25 MHz  they put that back on the air a year or so ago... Crazy idea!  I own multiple frequency references, time servers, et al. instrumentation and I STILL use WWV all the time to verify that my radios and clocks are IN FACT close to perfect. 73,

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

With the time keeping capability of GPS, isn't WWV obsolete ?? 73, Dick, W1KSZ Sent from Outlook From: time-nuts on behalf of Bill Hawkins Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 4:05:57 PM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

On 8/12/2018 6:55 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote: I hope this does not happen. I get questions from new Hams that ask, 'How can I check my antenna easily?' - the quick reply is to check for WWV on 2.5, 5,0, 10.0, 15.0 and 20.0 MHz. W1AW is far more useful to check ham antennas, since

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

Well, maybe NIST wants to cut, and maybe not. What happens is, in zero based budgeting, the chain of command will pass down the line requests for budgets for the coming year with cuts of varying depth. After a couple of cuts everywhere, travel for example, an agency will seek programs that

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

I hope this does not happen. I get questions from new Hams that ask, 'How can I check my antenna easily?' - the quick reply is to check for WWV on 2.5, 5,0, 10.0, 15.0 and 20.0 MHz. Also, from my days in the Merchant Marine until now, I for one will truly miss this service if it is discontinued,

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

What bits I have read do seem to indicate its NIST that wants to cut the service. Since technology has moved beyond the services value which is kind of true. Just think what they can get for the land the sites on. Microsemi's comments were interesting in that in some manner there might be a NTP

Re: [time-nuts] Loss of NIST transmitters at Colorado and Hawaii

Comment in the link about visiting WWV reminds me of my experience.  Many years ago my late wife and I were roving around Colorado and I telephoned WWV and asked if I could get a tour. I mentioned that I was a ham, an EE, blah blah. This had worked before at other installations (not NAA