Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

Beth Benoit wrote: > > > > Wow, Chris, you're uncharacteristically "late to the gate." This > conversation has been going on for almost a week. I'm curious...Did > TIPS get to you late, did your post get delayed, or??? > No, I was away from my e-mail for five (glorious) days. http://www.face

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Wow, Chris, you're uncharacteristically "late to the gate." This conversation has been going on for almost a week. I'm curious...Did TIPS get to you late, did your post get delayed, or??? Beth Benoit On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Christopher D. Green wrote: > > > He's simply paraphrasing JB

Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

He's simply paraphrasing JB Watson's (silly) claim: "Give me 12 children, well formed, and give me complete control of their environments. I'll make any one of them become whatever I wish: baker, banker, beggar man, thief, doctor, lawyer, or Indian chief." It is an article of the behaviorist cr

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Beth, you're right. Just wanted a clarification. What further complicates the already complications it is the distorting and often blinding and deafening emotion involved that makes it hard for us to understand the complications that come with being human, not to mention that we don't know a l

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Louis, One situation certainly does not "rationalize away" the other. If we knew *exactly *what caused the difference in responses, we'd have a goldmine. But as with almost all behavior, it can get complicated. Certainly we have some sound ideas that include the sometimes-obvious: a mentor, a c

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Beth, what, then, explains for the difference of responses since you seem to use the latter of your examples to rationalize away the former. Make it a good day -Louis- Louis Schmier http://www.the randomthoughts.edublogs.org Departm

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Allen Esterson writes: "I don't know what the situation is in the States, but the notion that violent people will very likely have had an abusive childhood is frequently expressed in the media in the UK." It's the same here in the States, Allen. The first thing people generally say about an abuse

Re:[tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

Mike Palij writes: >Again, to be clear, the CBS miniseries controversy seems to >match some of the characterizations that Joan mentioned in >her post but it possible that there is some other project that >actually was cancelled. Joan Warmbold wrote: >….do any of you recall that a production of Hit

Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 01:27:36 -0700, Allen Esterson wrote: >Thank, Mike, for your very comprehensive response to my queries >regarding Joan's posting. Again, to be clear, the CBS miniseries controversy seems to match some of the characterizations that Joan mentioned in her post but it possible th

Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

, the last possible response open to a child." Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org - -- Re:[tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person" Mike Palij Sat,

Re:[tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:46:50 -0700, Allen Esterson wrote: >On 27 August 2010 Joan Warmbold wrote: >>As a relevant tangent, do any of you recall that a production >>of Hitler's life was planned for HBO or PBS but was canceled >>as it provided some objective information about his abusive >>childhood.

Re:[tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

On 27 August 2010 Joan Warmbold wrote: >As a relevant tangent, do any of you recall that a production >of Hitler's life was planned for HBO or PBS but was canceled >as it provided some objective information about his abusive >childhood. That's a strong allegation to make without citation, Joan. Pl

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Paul, you are one of the very few that provide the notorious and ubiquitous quote by Watson in its' entirety. Most sources don't include the last part where Watson states "I am going beyond my fact and I admit it, but so have . . " Bet many on this listserv have not even been the complete qu

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I don't think Lovaas had a stunning ego whatsoever. Someone on this listserv had mentioned the rather odd fact that the NYT's had delayed their obituary of Lovaas for three days. I suspect they wanted their /fact checkers/ to make sure this guy was as accomplished and productive in his work w

Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

The quotation: “ Give me a dozen healthy infants, well-formed, and my own specified world to bring them up in and I'll guarantee to take any one at random and train him to become any type of specialist I might select – doctor, lawyer, artist, merchant-chief and, yes, even beggar-man and thief, r

Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

Astounding? Wasn't it John B Watson who said "Give me a dozen healthy infants, well-formed, and my own specified world to bring them up in and I’ll guarantee to take any one at random and train him to become any type of specialist I might select—doctor, lawyer, artist, merchant-chief and, yes,

RE: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

2:56 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person" > > Hi > > Reminds me of the movie "The Boys from Brazil," in which > Hitler was cloned and then extreme efforts taken to reproduce > h

Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be "a nice person"

Hi Reminds me of the movie "The Boys from Brazil," in which Hitler was cloned and then extreme efforts taken to reproduce his early environment. I wonder if Lovaas would also have argued that he could take any boy at 4 or 5 and turn out a Hitler? Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psycho

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Beth-- A bit of hyperbole maybe, but do you think that Hitler's personality was totally genetically determined? What makes the statement so astounding? Hitler (and Stalin, and Mao, et.al.) were human beings, not demons. There were many reasons why they were what they were; the fact that they were