Re: [tips] Cognitive Dissonance in the News

2014-11-07 Thread John Kulig

They can also say .. this will make Hillary's victory all the sweeter 

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From: Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca 
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Perhaps things look different from up here in Canada. I see a divided America 
rather than an overwhelming victory. 

Jim 

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On Nov 7, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Michael Britt  mich...@thepsychfiles.com  
wrote: 













The elections are (thankfully) over and the republicans have scored an 
overwhelming victory. So suppose that over the past few months you received 
lots of emails from the democratic party asking you to donate to the party to 
help it win. And suppose you actually did donate, let’s say, more than a few 
times. I’m not saying that this was me, but I am a social psychologist after 
all so I’ll let you draw your own opinions… 

So what does the democratic party tell their supporters after the election in 
order not to lose them as future supporters? Why, you tell them that they 
actually did NOT lose. For example, you might email your supporters and 
emphasize all those places where democrats did win. 

You might, for example, say these sorts of things: 



* “.. you made a real difference in this campaign. You should take a look 
at what you made possible. ” 
* “ We registered more voters, and made more phone calls, and knocked on 
more doors than ever before. ” 
* “ We’re so glad you gave us the chance to execute that voter registration 
program -- it made all the difference. ” 
* “We defeated Rep. Terry by 4,132 votes…. Because of the work you made 
possible …  
* “ You broke every grassroots fundraising record we have -- and then some. 
” 

To be fair, they also said, “ So we’ll just come out and say it: last night was 
rough. ” 

If I was the one writing those emails I suppose I’d use the same approach. 
Interesting though. 

Michael 

Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. 
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Twitter: @mbritt 




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Re: [tips] Cognitive Dissonance in the News

2014-11-07 Thread Carol DeVolder
Like.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:03 AM, John Kulig ku...@mail.plymouth.edu wrote:








 They can also say .. this will make Hillary's victory all the sweeter [image:
 Cool]

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 Professor of Psychology
 Coordinator, Psychology Honors
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 *From: *Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca
 *To: *Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
 tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
 *Sent: *Friday, November 7, 2014 8:58:46 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [tips] Cognitive Dissonance in the News







 Perhaps things look different from up here in Canada. I see a divided
 America rather than an overwhelming victory.

 Jim

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 7, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com
 wrote:







 The elections are (thankfully) over and the republicans have scored an
 overwhelming victory.  So suppose that over the past few months you
 received lots of emails from the democratic party asking you to donate to
 the party to help it win.  And suppose you actually did donate, let’s say,
 more than a few times.  I’m not saying that this was me, but I am a social
 psychologist after all so I’ll let you draw your own opinions…

 So what does the democratic party tell their supporters after the election
 in order not to lose them as future supporters?  Why, you tell them that
 they actually did NOT lose.  For example, you might email your supporters
 and emphasize all those places where democrats did win.

 You might, for example, say these sorts of things:


- “..you made a real difference in this campaign. You should take a
look at what you made possible.”
- “We registered more voters, and made more phone calls, and knocked
on more doors than ever before.”
- “We’re so glad you gave us the chance to execute that voter
registration program -- it made all the difference.”
- “We defeated Rep. Terry by 4,132 votes….Because of the work you made
possible…
- “You broke every grassroots fundraising record we have -- and then
some.”


 To be fair, they also said, “So we’ll just come out and say it: last
 night was rough.”

 If I was the one writing those emails I suppose I’d use the same
 approach.  Interesting though.

 Michael

 Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.
 mich...@thepsychfiles.com
 http://www.ThePsychFiles.com
 Twitter: @mbritt


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Re: [tips] Cognitive Dissonance in the News

2014-11-07 Thread Mike Palij

On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 06:31:41 -0800, Carol DeVolder wrote:

Like.


I think one lesson that voters for President Obama learned
(of which I was one), be careful what you wish for.  Or,
life is always less sweet than we expect it to be:

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:03 AM, John Kulig  wrote:
They can also say .. this will make Hillary's victory all the sweeter 
[image:

Cool]


To which I quote from the Mike Nichols' movie Charlie Wilson's
War about the tale of the Zen master:

We shall see.

On Friday, November 7, 2014 8:58:46 AM, Jim Clark wrote:

Perhaps things look different from up here in Canada. I see a divided
America rather than an overwhelming victory.


To which I say:  there are many ways to view what happened in this
week's election including:
(1) People will vote against their best interests (ideology trumps
cost-benefit analysis -- the failure of teaching critical thinking is 
once

again apparent),
(2) This morning we learned that 214K new jobs were added in the
U.S. in October (the ninth straight month were the increase was above
200K), one measure of unemployment dropped from 5.9%
to 5.8%, average hourly pay rose about 2% relative to a 1.7% inflation
rate, the labor force participation rate ticked up from 62.7% to 62.8%
after two months of decline, and, in case no one has been looking
at their 401(k) or stock portfolio, the Dow Jones and SP 500 are
hitting new all time highs.  Financially, the U.S. has been doing very
well this year especially compared to the 2008 and when President
Obama was first elected (when the unemployment rate was over 9%
and the stock market was in the toilet).  Is this an example of
emotional reasoning over logical reasoning?
(3) Science education in the U.S. has to improve because it is clear
that many voters and the people elected to office don't have a clue.
For example, see:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/nov/06/climate-denier-jim-inhofe-in-line-for-senates-top-environmental-job
Just listen to all of the politicians who say I'm no scientist but... 
and

then express an ignorant opinion about a scientific issue.  Again,
is this another failure of teaching of critical thinking?
(4) The U.S. may be a divided country but the real question is what
are the divisions?  Faith vs. Reason?  Opinion vs. Facts?
Plutocracy vs. Democracy?  There are so many divisions it is hard
to determine where to start.  Perhaps one place to start is with
Mississippi which wants to have a Confederate Heritage Month
and acknowledge Christianity (not clear which version -- Catholics
might not count) as the state's official religion; see:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/05/mississippi-confederate-heritage-petition/18553115/

On Nov 7, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Michael Britt 
mich...@thepsychfiles.com

wrote:
The elections are (thankfully) over and the republicans have scored an
overwhelming victory.  So suppose that over the past few months you
received lots of emails from the democratic party asking you to donate 
to
the party to help it win.  And suppose you actually did donate, let's 
say,
more than a few times.  I'm not saying that this was me, but I am a 
social

psychologist after all so I'll let you draw your own opinions.


Having receiving a number of such pleas for money for a couple of
candidates who lost by large margins (including one who has 20
federal charges against him and who threatened to throw a NY news
reporter off the balcony in the house of representative ON LIVE TV),
I just wonder what is wrong with the people who voted for the people
who won?

So what does the democratic party tell their supporters after the 
election
in order not to lose them as future supporters?  Why, you tell them 
that
they actually did NOT lose.  For example, you might email your 
supporters

and emphasize all those places where democrats did win.
[snip]


It is called spin.  Remember that old song with the lyrics you've got 
to
accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, and avoid Mr. 
In-Between?
I think you overstate the did NOT lose part because one would really 
have
to be psychotic to say such a thing (or, if it appeared in an email, an 
adult
did not review the email before it was sent).  It is one thing to 
emphasize
the glass is half full while realizing it is a urine sample.  The 
traditional

optimistic interpretation gets a bit mixed up.

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu




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