RE: [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference between Science and Ideology

2018-02-08 Thread Wuensch, Karl Louis 
  I would also like to see breakdown by major or degree.  Education in 
Business might steer folks in different directions than education in Biology, 
for example.

Cheers,
[Karl L. Wuensch]
From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:09 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference 
between Science and Ideology



Hi

Just higher education is too coarse a metric. Would be nice to see breakdown by 
major or degree.

Also, highly educated Republican may be an increasingly rare creature? So 
perhaps something of an anomaly.

Take care
Jim



Jim Clark
Professor of Psychology
University of Winnipeg
204-786-9757
Room 4L41A (4th Floor Lockhart)
www.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark


From: Michael Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
Sent: February-07-18 8:31 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Michael Palij
Subject: [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference 
between Science and Ideology



Because it appears that as Republicans get more education,
the less they rely upon science on issues like climate change
and more on what political elites tell them to believe.  Democrats
learn not to trust political elites and rely more on scientific
evidence -- there's a dissertation in there -- which validates
higher education at least for a portion of the population. I don't
know what independents do.  What is the basis for these statements?
A NY Times article based on Gallup survey research on attitudes;
see:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/14/upshot/climate-change-by-education.html?em_pos=medium=edit_up_20180207=upshot_art=7=389166=headline=1
To show how reliance on ideology can really screw things up,
it might be useful to start out with the example of Lysenkoism (see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism ) but, because its about Russia,
Young Republicans might believe that Lysenkoism is the correct view.
So, critical thinking might be a great thing to teach but certain types
of political ideology might be resistant to it.  Then you might want to
shift gears and ask when is it appropriate to submit to unjust or
ignorant authorities?  Then spring this:
https://bible.org/seriespage/10-submission-authorities-1-peter-213-25
Next, cover cost-benefit analysis.  Ask why would one accepts
costs over benefits IF one is not being altruistic.
-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu

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Re: [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference between Science and Ideology

2018-02-07 Thread Carol DeVolder 
Also, Mike, I'll see your "submit" and raise you a "resist."

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:08 PM, Jim Clark  wrote:

>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Just higher education is too coarse a metric. Would be nice to see
> breakdown by major or degree.
>
>
>
> Also, highly educated Republican may be an increasingly rare creature? So
> perhaps something of an anomaly.
>
>
>
> Take care
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Clark
>
> Professor of Psychology
>
> University of Winnipeg
>
> 204-786-9757 <(204)%20786-9757>
>
> Room 4L41A (4th Floor Lockhart)
>
> www.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
> *Sent:* February-07-18 8:31 PM
> *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> *Cc:* Michael Palij
> *Subject:* [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The
> Difference between Science and Ideology
>
>
>
>
>
> Because it appears that as Republicans get more education,
>
> the less they rely upon science on issues like climate change
>
> and more on what political elites tell them to believe.  Democrats
>
> learn not to trust political elites and rely more on scientific
>
> evidence -- there's a dissertation in there -- which validates
>
> higher education at least for a portion of the population. I don't
>
> know what independents do.  What is the basis for these statements?
>
> A NY Times article based on Gallup survey research on attitudes;
>
> see:
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/14/upshot/
> climate-change-by-education.html?em_pos=medium=edit_
> up_20180207=upshot_art=7=389166=headline=1
>
> To show how reliance on ideology can really screw things up,
>
> it might be useful to start out with the example of Lysenkoism (see:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism ) but, because its about Russia,
>
> Young Republicans might believe that Lysenkoism is the correct view.
>
> So, critical thinking might be a great thing to teach but certain types
>
> of political ideology might be resistant to it.  Then you might want to
>
> shift gears and ask when is it appropriate to submit to unjust or
>
> ignorant authorities?  Then spring this:
> https://bible.org/seriespage/10-submission-authorities-1-peter-213-25
>
> Next, cover cost-benefit analysis.  Ask why would one accepts
>
> costs over benefits IF one is not being altruistic.
>
> -Mike Palij
>
> New York University
>
> m...@nyu.edu
>
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Re: [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference between Science and Ideology

2018-02-07 Thread Carol DeVolder 
Sadly, I had a student in my office today who wanted to talk about becoming
an environmental activist. I told him he was better served by our biology
department than our psychology department (simply because we don't have the
resources to offer the courses that might help him, such as animal
behavior, comparative cognition, etc.). I then asked a leading question
about whether the current administration's view on science troubled him. He
was relatively uninformed and didn't know what I was talking about. I don't
know what his political affiliation is (I'm not sure he has one), but what
made me sad is that there are young people who either don't have time or
don't have other reasons to be engaged in current politics. My advice to
him was to try to stay abreast of current events. I showed him a booklet
published by the Heartland Institute as an example of the kind of climate
change denial he will be up against, but I am not sure it really sunk in.
I'm never sure when I'm overstepping my bounds and will end up on a watch
list. I'm also not sure what difference it makes.
Carol

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:08 PM, Jim Clark  wrote:

>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Just higher education is too coarse a metric. Would be nice to see
> breakdown by major or degree.
>
>
>
> Also, highly educated Republican may be an increasingly rare creature? So
> perhaps something of an anomaly.
>
>
>
> Take care
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Clark
>
> Professor of Psychology
>
> University of Winnipeg
>
> 204-786-9757 <(204)%20786-9757>
>
> Room 4L41A (4th Floor Lockhart)
>
> www.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
> *Sent:* February-07-18 8:31 PM
> *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> *Cc:* Michael Palij
> *Subject:* [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The
> Difference between Science and Ideology
>
>
>
>
>
> Because it appears that as Republicans get more education,
>
> the less they rely upon science on issues like climate change
>
> and more on what political elites tell them to believe.  Democrats
>
> learn not to trust political elites and rely more on scientific
>
> evidence -- there's a dissertation in there -- which validates
>
> higher education at least for a portion of the population. I don't
>
> know what independents do.  What is the basis for these statements?
>
> A NY Times article based on Gallup survey research on attitudes;
>
> see:
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/14/upshot/
> climate-change-by-education.html?em_pos=medium=edit_
> up_20180207=upshot_art=7=389166=headline=1
>
> To show how reliance on ideology can really screw things up,
>
> it might be useful to start out with the example of Lysenkoism (see:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism ) but, because its about Russia,
>
> Young Republicans might believe that Lysenkoism is the correct view.
>
> So, critical thinking might be a great thing to teach but certain types
>
> of political ideology might be resistant to it.  Then you might want to
>
> shift gears and ask when is it appropriate to submit to unjust or
>
> ignorant authorities?  Then spring this:
> https://bible.org/seriespage/10-submission-authorities-1-peter-213-25
>
> Next, cover cost-benefit analysis.  Ask why would one accepts
>
> costs over benefits IF one is not being altruistic.
>
> -Mike Palij
>
> New York University
>
> m...@nyu.edu
>
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RE: [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference between Science and Ideology

2018-02-07 Thread Jim Clark 
Hi

Just higher education is too coarse a metric. Would be nice to see breakdown by 
major or degree.

Also, highly educated Republican may be an increasingly rare creature? So 
perhaps something of an anomaly.

Take care
Jim



Jim Clark
Professor of Psychology
University of Winnipeg
204-786-9757
Room 4L41A (4th Floor Lockhart)
www.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark


From: Michael Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
Sent: February-07-18 8:31 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Michael Palij
Subject: [tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference 
between Science and Ideology



Because it appears that as Republicans get more education,
the less they rely upon science on issues like climate change
and more on what political elites tell them to believe.  Democrats
learn not to trust political elites and rely more on scientific
evidence -- there's a dissertation in there -- which validates
higher education at least for a portion of the population. I don't
know what independents do.  What is the basis for these statements?
A NY Times article based on Gallup survey research on attitudes;
see:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/14/upshot/climate-change-by-education.html?em_pos=medium=edit_up_20180207=upshot_art=7=389166=headline=1
To show how reliance on ideology can really screw things up,
it might be useful to start out with the example of Lysenkoism (see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism ) but, because its about Russia,
Young Republicans might believe that Lysenkoism is the correct view.
So, critical thinking might be a great thing to teach but certain types
of political ideology might be resistant to it.  Then you might want to
shift gears and ask when is it appropriate to submit to unjust or
ignorant authorities?  Then spring this:
https://bible.org/seriespage/10-submission-authorities-1-peter-213-25
Next, cover cost-benefit analysis.  Ask why would one accepts
costs over benefits IF one is not being altruistic.
-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu

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[tips] If You Have Republican Students, Teach Them The Difference between Science and Ideology

2018-02-07 Thread Michael Palij 
Because it appears that as Republicans get more education,
the less they rely upon science on issues like climate change
and more on what political elites tell them to believe.  Democrats
learn not to trust political elites and rely more on scientific
evidence -- there's a dissertation in there -- which validates
higher education at least for a portion of the population. I don't
know what independents do.  What is the basis for these statements?
A NY Times article based on Gallup survey research on attitudes;
see:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/14/upshot/climate-change-by-education.html?em_pos=medium=edit_up_20180207=upshot_art=7=389166=headline=1

To show how reliance on ideology can really screw things up,
it might be useful to start out with the example of Lysenkoism (see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism ) but, because its about Russia,
Young Republicans might believe that Lysenkoism is the correct view.

So, critical thinking might be a great thing to teach but certain types
of political ideology might be resistant to it.  Then you might want to
shift gears and ask when is it appropriate to submit to unjust or
ignorant authorities?  Then spring this:
https://bible.org/seriespage/10-submission-authorities-1-peter-213-25

Next, cover cost-benefit analysis.  Ask why would one accepts
costs over benefits IF one is not being altruistic.

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu

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