Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

2018-04-05 Thread Dale R. Worley
Eric Rescorla writes: > I guess there might be some intermediate category 1.5 that's kind of in > production so you don't want to print out complete logs, but you'd like > more detail than you would probably want to expose in general, but my > experience is that that's not

Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

2018-04-01 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Eric Rescorla writes: > > >In my experience, there are four major scenarios for diagnosing this kind > of > >failure. Under the assumption that you control one end, the other end can > be: > > >

Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

2018-04-01 Thread Ion Larranaga Azcue
21sec.com> Enviado: domingo, 1 de abril de 2018 11:55 Para: Peter Gutmann; Eric Rescorla Cc: General Area Review Team; Dale R. Worley; IETF discussion list; draft-ietf-tls-tls13@ietf.org; <tls@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft

Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

2018-04-01 Thread Ion Larranaga Azcue
Azcue; Eric Rescorla Cc: IETF discussion list; General Area Review Team; draft-ietf-tls-tls13@ietf.org; Dale R. Worley; <tls@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24] Ion Larranaga Azcue <ila...@s21

Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

2018-04-01 Thread Ion Larranaga Azcue
de 2018 7:29 Para: Eric Rescorla Cc: IETF discussion list; General Area Review Team; draft-ietf-tls-tls13@ietf.org; Dale R. Worley; <tls@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24] Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> writes

Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

2018-03-31 Thread Peter Gutmann
Eric Rescorla writes: >In my experience, there are four major scenarios for diagnosing this kind of >failure. Under the assumption that you control one end, the other end can be: > >1. A live endpoint. >2. A testing endpoint someone has put up. >3. An endpoint that someone is

[TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

2018-03-31 Thread Eric Rescorla
Thinking through this some more, I'm skeptical that this is going to be that useful as a debugging-only feature. In my experience, there are four major scenarios for diagnosing this kind of failure. Under the assumption that you control one end, the other end can be: 1. A live endpoint. 2. A