Re: [TLS] TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center (was: I-D Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt)

2016-11-16 Thread Salz, Rich
> Isn’t possible to achieve the goals of this proposal without re-using DH > secrets? > For example, let DH_secret = KDF ( monitoring_key, server.hello , > client.hello), or something similar. Ideally, the monitoring_key should be > updated frequently as possible (while keeping it synchronized

Re: [TLS] TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center (was: I-D Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt)

2016-11-16 Thread Dan Brown
: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Green Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:55 AM To: ynir.i...@gmail.com Cc: tls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center (was: I-D Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt) Thanks for pointing out the line

Re: [TLS] TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center (was: I-D Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt)

2016-11-16 Thread Matthew Green
To: Sean Turner mailto:s...@sn3rd.com>> > Cc: "mailto:tls@ietf.org>>" <mailto:tls@ietf.org>> > Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center (was: I-D > Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt) > Message-ID: <2f41d793-19

Re: [TLS] TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center (was: I-D Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt)

2016-11-14 Thread Yoav Nir
If I understand this draft correctly, this draft describes server behavior. It does not change anything within the TLS 1.3 protocol. IOW a server doing this will interoperate with any client. I searched the tls13 draft to see if it has anything to say about this, and the only thing I found was

[TLS] TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center (was: I-D Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt)

2016-11-14 Thread Sean Turner
Please note that this draft is related to the agenda item: - TLS Visibility Inside the Data Center spt > Begin forwarded message: > > From: internet-dra...@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00.txt > Date: November 14, 2016 at 15:36:49 GMT+9 > To: > Reply-To: in