Re: [TLS] NIST on addressing visibility challenges with TLS 1.3

2021-09-28 Thread Rob Sayre
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 2:32 PM Stephen Farrell 
wrote:

> On 28/09/2021 17:53, Salz, Rich wrote:
> > This will be of interest to some on this list.
>

I mean, maybe, but what's the list policy on this stuff? It just looks like
conference spam to me. I'd guess the government folks on the list would
already know about this NIST effort.


> I'm glad I'm not a tax payer in a jurisdiction that's
> encouraging people to weaken the security properties this
> WG has tried hard to improve.
>

Unfortunately, I am such a taxpayer.

thanks,
Rob
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Re: [TLS] NIST on addressing visibility challenges with TLS 1.3

2021-09-28 Thread Stephen Farrell


Hiya,

On 28/09/2021 17:53, Salz, Rich wrote:

This will be of interest to some on this list.  Quoting: “The NCCoE
at NIST recognizes the challenges associated with compliance,
operations, and security when enterprises employ encrypted protocols,
in particular Transport Layer Security (TLS) 1.3, in their data
centers. This project will use commercially available technologies to
demonstrate a range of approaches for enabling necessary
intra-enterprise access to unencrypted/decrypted information. 


I'm glad I'm not a tax payer in a jurisdiction that's
encouraging people to weaken the security properties this
WG has tried hard to improve. I wonder do other parts of
NIST sponsor work like that - it'd be a bit like [1]
producing specs on how to get your thumb on the scales;-)

From my perspective this kind of thing also makes it harder
to figure out what overall evaluation to associate with the
agency that produced AES, dual-ec, this stuff, and presumably
some PQ alg "winners" in the near future. Quite the mixed
bag that.

Cheers,
S.

[1] https://www.nist.gov/pml/weights-and-measures




More at
https://www.nccoe.nist.gov/projects/building-blocks/applied-cryptography/addressing-visibility-challenges-tls-13
including how to participate.


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Re: [TLS] NIST on addressing visibility challenges with TLS 1.3

2021-09-28 Thread Deirdre Connolly
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 12:54 PM Salz, Rich 
wrote:

> This will be of interest to some on this list.  Quoting: “The NCCoE at
> NIST recognizes the challenges associated with compliance, operations, and
> security when enterprises employ encrypted protocols, in particular
> Transport Layer Security (TLS) 1.3, in their data centers. This project
> will use commercially available technologies to demonstrate a range of
> approaches for enabling necessary intra-enterprise access to
> unencrypted/decrypted information. “
>
>
>
>
>
> More at
> https://www.nccoe.nist.gov/projects/building-blocks/applied-cryptography/addressing-visibility-challenges-tls-13
> including how to participate.
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[TLS] NIST on addressing visibility challenges with TLS 1.3

2021-09-28 Thread Salz, Rich
This will be of interest to some on this list.  Quoting: “The NCCoE at NIST 
recognizes the challenges associated with compliance, operations, and security 
when enterprises employ encrypted protocols, in particular Transport Layer 
Security (TLS) 1.3, in their data centers. This project will use commercially 
available technologies to demonstrate a range of approaches for enabling 
necessary intra-enterprise access to unencrypted/decrypted information. “


More at 
https://www.nccoe.nist.gov/projects/building-blocks/applied-cryptography/addressing-visibility-challenges-tls-13
 including how to participate.
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