Re: [toaster] Forwards handling

2007-12-21 Thread Shane Chrisp
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 10:42 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As i understand from your recommendation is that you delete or do not
 deliver to a mailbox all messages that are considered as spam ?

I never delete mail, its always bounced during the smtp conversation so
that the sender gets notified in case of a false positive or it is
accepted. I dont give the clients the option to play with the spam
settings in SA either and I get very few false positives.

 I still deliver spam messages but i deliver them to the Spam folder
 using procmail. If a user sets it's mailbox to forward all messages to
 another external mailbox i think that the procmail is never run and if it
 is run the message still gets forwarded.
 
 Again, if i'm not mistaking you recommendation will not help me a great deal.

If this is how you want to run your systems then no my option is not
going to help you out. However I would recommend that if your going have
customers setting up forwards, you should consider rejecting the spam at
smtp conversation time instead. But that is of course your own choice.

I cant think of any way of having the email forwarded and yet not
forwarding on the spam.

Shane

 If you care to explain in more detail what is the exact behavior and what
 is going on ?
 
  Simply run good spamassassin filtering on your server and you wont
  forward spam on. If your not already, consider also using rules from
  http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm in your SA setup and use
  RulesDuJour to keep them up to date.
 
  Shane
 
 
  On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 11:30 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello list !
 
  Is there a way i can control forwarder addresses that the users set ?
 
  Here is the encountered scenario:
 
  Users set a forward for the mailbox on my server to a remote yahoo
  address. This causes for all spam that they receive to be also sent to
  the
  yahoo servers which, in turn, will start to consider my server as a
  spamming one and keep deferring messages for large periods of times.
  This
  behavior disturbs other user's communications when yahoo addresses are
  involved since the legitimate messages are deferred for large periods of
  time also.
 
  My question is, if a limit on the forwarded e-mail addresses can be set
  to
  only local addresses. This is a preferred behavior unlike disabling
  forwards altogether.
 
  Thank you in advance for your answers and clarifications in case i mis
  understood the situation encountered.
 
 
 
 
 



[toaster] Forwards handling

2007-12-18 Thread daniel
Hello list !

Is there a way i can control forwarder addresses that the users set ?

Here is the encountered scenario:

Users set a forward for the mailbox on my server to a remote yahoo
address. This causes for all spam that they receive to be also sent to the
yahoo servers which, in turn, will start to consider my server as a
spamming one and keep deferring messages for large periods of times. This
behavior disturbs other user's communications when yahoo addresses are
involved since the legitimate messages are deferred for large periods of
time also.

My question is, if a limit on the forwarded e-mail addresses can be set to
only local addresses. This is a preferred behavior unlike disabling
forwards altogether.

Thank you in advance for your answers and clarifications in case i mis
understood the situation encountered.



Re: [toaster] Forwards handling

2007-12-18 Thread Shane Chrisp
Simply run good spamassassin filtering on your server and you wont
forward spam on. If your not already, consider also using rules from
http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm in your SA setup and use
RulesDuJour to keep them up to date.

Shane


On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 11:30 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list !
 
 Is there a way i can control forwarder addresses that the users set ?
 
 Here is the encountered scenario:
 
 Users set a forward for the mailbox on my server to a remote yahoo
 address. This causes for all spam that they receive to be also sent to the
 yahoo servers which, in turn, will start to consider my server as a
 spamming one and keep deferring messages for large periods of times. This
 behavior disturbs other user's communications when yahoo addresses are
 involved since the legitimate messages are deferred for large periods of
 time also.
 
 My question is, if a limit on the forwarded e-mail addresses can be set to
 only local addresses. This is a preferred behavior unlike disabling
 forwards altogether.
 
 Thank you in advance for your answers and clarifications in case i mis
 understood the situation encountered.