[PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Chatted with a lot of people, seen many, different development models, went around, asked, talked, and I believe I have a pretty decent picture, and maybe even a solution... So the major topic of discussion is that I perceive a substantial difference between being able to commit code to a CVS

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-24 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. Another example if I could. The job role of 'Java admin' is growing more and more at companies. Developers shouldn't be adminning things, but would you have your unix or oracle admin be the admin of the Java side with zero Java knowledge? Jakarta houses the 'Java' community at Apache but

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-24 Thread costinm
-1 If someone doesn't want to be involved in the voting - he can do exaclty that, abstain. If someone doesn't want to support a particular release - he can abstain from the release vote( or vote +-0 ). If you spend time and write code for a project and are willing to maintain/support - and if

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1. Another example if I could. The job role of 'Java admin' is growing more and more at companies. Developers shouldn't be adminning things, but would you have your unix or oracle admin be the admin of the Java side with zero Java knowledge?

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do agree ( and I advocated for this a lot ) on lowering ( or eliminating) the walls between projects, so jakarta commiters can commit code in any jakarta project ( subject to the normal project rules ). Some people didn't agree with that even for

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-24 Thread costinm
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: If you are a commiter - you have the same rights with all other commiters. If you don't want to exercise some rights - it's your choice. Hola, you tend to forget a part I'm stressing out quite hardly... It's not only rights... It's also dues,