Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-19 Thread Christopher Cain
Quoting Mark Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is not a product that we are planning to have publicly available, although we develop it in a commercial release-like fasion. We do have the software running on about 100 customer sites now. The company I work for is Counterpane Internet Security

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-19 Thread Christopher Cain
Quoting Jan Labanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Guys, You are getting religious about CGI... Religious is good, but I worry that it is a cult {:-)}. CGI was a good thing for last 6 years, and it is a still good thing sometimes. CGI is a technically _horrible_ solution. The entire process model is

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-19 Thread Mark Castillo
You work for _Counterpane_?!? I am involved in open source Java cryptography projects, and cypto/security is where alot of my experience lies. I am, of course, quite familiar with Counterpane. ;-) You work with Bruce and shit ... damn, what and honor THAT would be :) Yeah, he's a cool guy.

CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Whoha... Just had my nightly report on the server, and thank god it was running TC40b7 when I had a NESSUS run :) I got a TON of reports on CGIs installed on the system, and freaked out AAAHHH someone broke into my server... UNTIL I didn't see a .exe CGI... What, is it a UNIX or a WINDOWS box?

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Christopher Cain
Quoting Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (BTW, wouldn't it be wise to disable CGI execution in the default configuration? I don't know, after hearing people running Tomcat as root, I feel we really should!) +1

RE: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Deacon Marcus
Hi, -Original Message- From: Pier P. Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 10:44 AM To: tomcat dev jakarta.apache.org Subject: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7 [...] (BTW, wouldn't it be wise to disable CGI execution in the default configuration? I

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Mark Castillo
wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7 Quoting Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (BTW, wouldn't it be wise to disable CGI execution in the default configuration? I don't know, after hearing people running Tomcat as root, I feel we really should!) +1

RE: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Deacon Marcus wrote: Hi, -Original Message- From: Pier P. Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 10:44 AM To: tomcat dev jakarta.apache.org Subject: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7 [...] (BTW, wouldn't it be wise

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Christopher Cain
Quoting Mark Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all. I'm new to the list. Sorry if someone has already brought this up, but couldn't the code provide some native methods for changing the uid of the process after binding to the network ports (if they want to start as root, binding to a port

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Mark Castillo
- Original Message - It's an experimental feature which is available in our CVS source tree... You might want to check out the service directory in the jakarta-tomcat-4.0 CVS repository. Ah! I see it. Nice. Currently I'm reviewing the Tomcat sources for embedding a servlet

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
, starting at: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html Welcome! Craig - Original Message - From: Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7 Quoting Pier P

RE: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Christopher Cain
Quoting Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Craig (who is amused by this, since Apache itself ships with CGI enabled) True enough, but the very point of JSP/Servlets is to obviate the need for CGI. I can't imagine that ANYONE would want to run CGI from Tomcat unless they had some legacy

RE: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Christopher Cain wrote: Quoting Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Craig (who is amused by this, since Apache itself ships with CGI enabled) True enough, but the very point of JSP/Servlets is to obviate the need for CGI. I can't imagine that ANYONE would

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Deacon Marcus at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, -Original Message- From: Pier P. Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 10:44 AM To: tomcat dev jakarta.apache.org Subject: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7 [...] (BTW, wouldn't it be wise to disable

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Christopher Cain
Quoting Mark Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] What I was really wanting to evaluate was how you guys are managing sessions and how sessions information could possibly leak out via the filesystem, memory, or other ways. The application we are running runs in a hostile environment (remote

RE: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Christopher Cain
Quoting Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with turning it off by default ... but it also needs someone to write a HOWTO document on how to turn it on and use it (to avoid endless questions on TOMCAT-USER about I thought you said Tomcat 4 supported CGI :-).

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Mark Castillo
Sounds cool, but I'll let someone a little more familiar with CGI speak to the feasibility in Tomcat. I started out my dynamic-content life with ASP (D'oh!), then moved to servlets (Woo-hoo!), so I was rather fortunate in that I got to skip the whole CGI nightmare :-) Good for you. If I

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Mark Castillo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now we've integrated Acme server (and integrated https and login session support ourselves, which was a royal pain). So, I'm trying to figure out if we want to continue maintaining (fixing/rewriting?) the Acme server or scrap it and go to

RE: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Deacon Marcus
, 2001 10:44 AM To: tomcat dev jakarta.apache.org Subject: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7 [...] (BTW, wouldn't it be wise to disable CGI execution in the default configuration? I don't know, after hearing people running Tomcat as root, I feel we really should!) You mean it's

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Jan Labanowski
Guys, You are getting religious about CGI... Religious is good, but I worry that it is a cult {:-)}. CGI was a good thing for last 6 years, and it is a still good thing sometimes. Note, we have tons of legacy perl software around, and believe me, I can sometimes do more in one line of perl, than

Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7

2001-08-18 Thread Mark Castillo
, August 18, 2001 9:36 PM Subject: Re: CGI wrapper in Tomcat 4.0 b7 Guys, You are getting religious about CGI... Religious is good, but I worry that it is a cult {:-)}. CGI was a good thing for last 6 years, and it is a still good thing sometimes. Note, we have tons of legacy perl software around