Re: Jk2 object model + Netware OT

2004-01-13 Thread NormW
- Original Message - From: "Mike Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: RE: Jk2 object model I'm definitely interested in helping with this but feel I'm out of the loop a little. What areas

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-12 Thread Mike Anderson
lache > Sent: 11. sije*anj 2004 2:36 > To: Tomcat Developers List > Subject: Re: Jk2 object model > > > > > But this time I'd like to spend a month or so doing 'real' design > > without the single line of code. If we manage to put and > describe our

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-11 Thread Mladen Turk
> From: Costin Manolache > Sent: 11. siječanj 2004 2:36 > To: Tomcat Developers List > Subject: Re: Jk2 object model > > > > > But this time I'd like to spend a month or so doing 'real' design > > without the single line of code. If we man

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-10 Thread Costin Manolache
Mladen Turk wrote: From: Henri Gomez As many I feel that jk (and maybe also jk2) are now pretty stable, and I don't see the need for a new just web/tomcat connector. Finally someone :-). That's why I did try to use the revolutionary approach. Jet another connector wouldn't make a much dif

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread Mladen Turk
> From: Henri Gomez > > > As many I feel that jk (and maybe also jk2) are now pretty > stable, and I don't see the need for a new just web/tomcat connector. > Finally someone :-). That's why I did try to use the revolutionary approach. Jet another connector wouldn't make a much difference (

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread Henri Gomez
Henri Gomez a écrit : Mladen Turk a écrit : -Original Message- From: jean-frederic clere Sent: 9. siječanj 2004 8:35 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model The concept (approach) as I see it is to be able to make a connector (integrator), that would allow the

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread Henri Gomez
Mladen Turk a écrit : -Original Message- From: jean-frederic clere Sent: 9. siječanj 2004 8:35 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model The concept (approach) as I see it is to be able to make a connector (integrator), that would allow the zero-based-configuration

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread Mladen Turk
> -Original Message- > From: jean-frederic clere > Sent: 9. siječanj 2004 8:35 > To: Tomcat Developers List > Subject: Re: Jk2 object model > > > > >>The concept (approach) as I see it is to be able to make a > connector > >>

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread jean-frederic clere
Mike Anderson wrote: I agree that the current connectors (jk and jk2) are fairly "stable and done" because they just work. The hardest part in using them is that there is a lot of duplicated setup between the Java/Tomcat side and the webserver configuration just to get things working. Then, when

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Jk2 object model > Mladen Turk wrote: > >>From: Costin Manolache > >> > >>So my suggestio

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Costin Manolache
Mladen Turk wrote: From: Costin Manolache So my suggestion ( deja vue ? ) is to use "evolution" :-). A change in the OO model ( if needed ) or fixing/improving the current one is not as big change as it seems - it's mostly in initialization code. How about 'revolution'? On the other hand how doe

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mike Anderson
I agree that the current connectors (jk and jk2) are fairly "stable and done" because they just work. The hardest part in using them is that there is a lot of duplicated setup between the Java/Tomcat side and the webserver configuration just to get things working. Then, when you add a new webapp

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
> From: Costin Manolache > > So my suggestion ( deja vue ? ) is to use "evolution" :-). A change in > the OO model ( if needed ) or fixing/improving the current one is not > as big change as it seems - it's mostly in initialization code. > How about 'revolution'? On the other hand how does the ev

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Costin Manolache
The major mistake in "jk2" is the "2" in the name. It was an error to fork ( even if it was easier to code and move it ) instead of improving mod_jk and adding/fixing. In JNI mode and from configuration perspective - as well as ability to use non-tcp-socket communation - jk2 is way ahead. As cod

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
Hate to quote myself, but... > > As I said, the performance isn't a priority here, but rather > usability. > I'm sure that TC guys will be open here, and we will see > (perhaps even in > 5.1) the 'open TC API', that could be directly used, or > seamlessly integrated from the native side. > >

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
> -Original Message- > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I agree with you that this would be JK3, rather then JK2 on > steroids > > :-), and it would require a different perspective. > > I'm in favor of _usability_ over performance in that new approach. > > > > Ja

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Henri Gomez
Mladen Turk a écrit : Hi, Since I've started few months ago all the C++ fuzziness (I did posted even some source to Costin back then), my intention wasn't to CPP-ize the existing code, but rather to move that 'dead' code on some new tracks. What I'm looking since then is some kind of different ap

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
t a major JK2 technological advantage for more then a year, and there isn't much interest of the developer community thought. I also use the JK for production servers, and it is doing just fine for what it needs to. MT. > -Original Message- > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Henri Gomez
I'm pretty busy these days so I can't works on JK2 as I want to. Some ideas/reflexions. JK2 is very similar to JK, from the tomcat point of vue, since the same ajp13 protocol is used, and may be in such case we could see JK2 too similar to JK to see users switch to JK2 (for instance we're still u

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Kyle VanderBeek
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:50:32AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: > Me too... > The JK2 IMO is a pretty dead project. > Henri tried to boost that forcing the APR as a default, we did some work, > but it is agin stalled. Could someone put a big warning statment on the web site about this? Honestly, 90

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Henri Gomez
is process for each worker's performance. Regards, Glenn On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:52:06AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: -Original Message- From: Bill Barker Sent: 7. sije?anj 2004 9:22 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model I'm interested if jk2 could "plu

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Glenn Nielsen
h worker's performance. Regards, Glenn On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:52:06AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bill Barker > > Sent: 7. sije?anj 2004 9:22 > > To: Tomcat Developers List > > Subject: Re: Jk2 object model >

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Turk
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Barker > Sent: 7. siječanj 2004 9:22 > To: Tomcat Developers List > Subject: Re: Jk2 object model > > > > > > I'm interested if jk2 could "plug" into more applications - > there aren't > &g

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:06 PM Subject: Re: Jk2 object model > Mladen Turk wrote: > > > > > > From Costin Manolache > > > &g

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Costin Manolache
Mladen Turk wrote: From Costin Manolache Sent: 6. siječanj 2004 8:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jk2 object model jean-frederic clere wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. I am

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Turk
>From Costin Manolache > Sent: 6. siječanj 2004 8:11 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Jk2 object model > > jean-frederic clere wrote: > > Costin Manolache wrote: > > > >> I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use > C++ for jk2

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-06 Thread Costin Manolache
jean-frederic clere wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. I am -1 for using C++... And wondering why you want to use C++. I don't actually want to use C++ - I'm just a bit unhappy with the "rei

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-05 Thread jean-frederic clere
Costin Manolache wrote: I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. I am -1 for using C++... And wondering why you want to use C++. Did anything got discussed/decided about this or the low-level model ? Costin

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-05 Thread Henri Gomez
Bill Barker a écrit : - Original Message - From: "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Jk2 object model I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming.

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-05 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Jk2 object model > I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 > instead of the pseudo-OO programming. Did anything got di