RE: [VOTE] Committer Status for Marc Saegesser (was: Re: 3.x subm itters [was RE: [MY_OPINION] Tomcat 3.x])

2000-12-21 Thread GOMEZ Henri
+1 "Pour la plupart des hommes, se corriger consiste à changer de défauts." -- Voltaire

Commiters WHO and WHERE

2000-12-21 Thread GOMEZ Henri
Hi to all commiters, Many new commiters these days came with christmas. After all the noise about TC 3.3, It could be nice to know where each commiter (oldies and newbies) plan to works : There is still now, 3 projects (Sorry jon ;-) : TOMCAT 3.2: TOMCAT 3.3: TOMCAT 4.0: Could each

Re: [MY_OPINION] Tomcat 3.x

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GOMEZ Henri wrote: I remember the hard discution about spinaker on xerces mailing-list and IBM became more open after Sun position. But in the Tomcat case we have Sun on one side and individuals on the others. Not really the same condition. Hello Sam ?-)

Re: [MY_OPINION] Tomcat 3.x

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/19/2000 10:48 AM, "Larry Isaacs" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Tomcat 3.3 can prove it is as stable as Tomcat 3.2.x and is more spec compliant than 3.2.x, Why does it have to be called Tomcat 3.3? Why not Tomcat 3.2.x+1? Because it's architecture

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: Costin and the rest of you who commented. You obviously know what is best and have shown me that I simply have my head up my ass and I'm just a complete jerk and I should stop now and just let you do whatever you want. I give up. All of my

RE: [MY_OPINION] Tomcat 3.x

2000-12-21 Thread GOMEZ Henri
And we, as the newly formed Apache Software Foundation, accepted that code in donation as a point of start for the Jakarta Project. I was there, in that meeting room, that day when we outlined how the process would have evolved, with Jon, Stefano and Brian. And I was there, on stage at

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Mikael Helbo Kjær
Nicely put

Re: Tomcat 3.3

2000-12-21 Thread Andy
Hello, I've been reading both this and the dev list for about a month and asking/answering the more well put user questions (meaning I don't do to well on the ones that just say "Tomcat 3.x.x doesn't work on linux) and nothing else). I'd like to contribute to a tomcat, but since there are

RE: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread GOMEZ Henri
And it's even worse because you are FUCKING RIGHT! It makes me puke to read comments like the one that James Cook sent "My personal impression of you is in the toilet now", or Gomez Henri "IBM == xml.apache.org and SUN == jakarta.apache.org". Where were you KIDS when we were fighting the big

RE: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Sam Ruby
Gomez Henri wrote: The future of Tomcat 3.3 seems to be outside Apache now. It's really sad. As Pier recently said on another mailing list "You can't stop open source developers...". Is this really what everybody wants? I'm sure it could be made to happen. And quickly upgraded to the latest

RE: ajp13 evolution or ajp14

2000-12-21 Thread GOMEZ Henri
Way back to technic ;-) Great too see that. May be the last time :-( I think Dan is the authority in this, but I'll add my 2c anyway. - it's not a bad idea - as long as it's an option That's could be a secured ajp13 or ajp14 ?-) - maybe there are ways to do it without too much code change

[Fwd: Tomcat 3.3]

2000-12-21 Thread Andy
Hello, I've been reading both this and the dev list for about a month and asking/answering the more well put user questions (meaning I don't do to well on the ones that just say "Tomcat 3.x.x doesn't work on linux) and nothing else). I'd like to contribute to a tomcat, but since there

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Costin Manolache
they were. Jon, you might be annoying and obnoxious at times, but those kids don't even care about reading what you're writing... Too bad all this is on an open mailing list where the mails can be read again and again - and people may form their own opinions. _exactly_ happening: from

RE: ajp13 evolution or ajp14

2000-12-21 Thread Costin Manolache
Way back to technic ;-) Great too see that. May be the last time :-( I hope not - it's great working with you :-) - it's not a bad idea - as long as it's an option That's could be a secured ajp13 or ajp14 ?-) AFAIK ajp13 can be extended in a backward-compatible way ( or at least

RE: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Nacho
tree. Who is actually FIXING the 3.2 bugs and trying to get a better container on the old architecture? Not certainly Costin, Nacho or the Please be carefull when you write something about anybody, have a look at commits please... Henri, P. Delisle and I are the only ones here that had

RE: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Rob S.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe the whole focus of 3.3 / 3.2.x thing, is that neither of them will be all that they could be because the resources are so limited and divided. Of what value would enhancing JServ to the point of technical perfection, be right now when it is clearly not the

RE: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Rob S. wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe the whole focus of 3.3 / 3.2.x thing, is that neither of them will be all that they could be because the resources are so limited and divided. Of what value would enhancing JServ to the point of technical perfection,

help for EJB

2000-12-21 Thread Boby Micheal
We are soft ware developers(Calrion systems (P)Ltd. , Cochin ,Kerala, India).Now we are developing application in EJB under weblogic server. We required to deploy the application (what we developed in EJB under weblogic server)in Tomcat server. Please give me a step by step Instructions

Tomcat 3.2.1 bug if not root-context defined.

2000-12-21 Thread Klaus Friedel
Tomcat 3.2.1 fails to deliver a resource, if no root-context is defined in serverl.xml. If you do not define the root-context "" in server.xml and request a non-existing resource, Tomcat will loop forever in PrefixMapper.getLongestPrefixMatch() trying to find a Container for "". Bye, Klaus.

Re: Tomcat 3.2.1 bug if not root-context defined.

2000-12-21 Thread Shawn McMurdo
Hi Klaus, I ran into this as well and thought it was particular to the way that Tomcat is integrated with Enhydra. I think I have a fix for it. I'll try to get a patch together and post it soon. Shawn Klaus Friedel wrote: Tomcat 3.2.1 fails to deliver a resource, if no root-context is

Re: How to do my own JSP processing

2000-12-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Christian Mallwitz wrote: Hi, I want to write a servlet that reads JSP files from somewhere outside the servlets web application context, compiles them to a location outside the servlets web application (if necessary) and then invokes the compiled servlet class. I started looking at

Re: Changes to the servletapi build.xml file

2000-12-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
This is definitely the place ... thanks Sean! Jon Stevens has committed some changes to the servletapi build scripts. I will take a look and merge your ideas for anything he missed. Craig Sean wrote: I had to made changes to the build.xml file to get it to work with the latest version of any.

Re: Tomcat 3.3

2000-12-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Andy wrote: But, that being the case (and I know I'm touching on a sore spot) what will be the lifespan of 3.3. Since a proposal to publish a "Tomcat 3.3" has never been formally presented and voted on, the only logically correct answer is "I don't know." Depending on the results of a vote,

Re: help for EJB

2000-12-21 Thread Shawn McMurdo
Boby Micheal wrote: We are soft ware developers(Calrion systems (P)Ltd. , Cochin ,Kerala, India).Now we are developing application in EJB under weblogic server. We requiredto deploy the application (what we developed in EJB under weblogic server)in Tomcat server. Please give me a step by

Re: F**k It. (off topic)

2000-12-21 Thread mclinden
I don't mean to sound as though I am a prude, but we do a lot of our consulting at customer sites, much of it face-to-face with the customer's staff and management. I can control what messages I read and when but I cannot control when people are in my office and when the message alert with the

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Christopher Cain
"Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: Where were you KIDS when we were fighting the big corporations to have them looking into open source, to contribute significant parts of their technologies to the Foundation, where were you while we were changing this world? You were home, and one day, you looked

Re: [T4][Classloaders][PATCH Suggestion] Bug in toURL() and new URL(x,x,x,x)

2000-12-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Stuart Roebuck wrote: In the course of fixing a problem I was having getting Apache Cocoon to run, I came across a bug in Java in the File.toURL() method. This fault, combined with the use of the URLClassLoader resulted in a classloading issue. Stuart, I'm trying to create a simple,

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread cmanolache
Not true at all. 3.x only implements Servlet API 2.2 and 4.0 implements Servlet API latest and greatest. On top of it, I (and others) would be STRONGLY -1 for adding Servlet API 2.3 support to 3.x within the Jakarta project. That is why Costin has already agreed and stated that he will

Re: F**k It. (off topic)

2000-12-21 Thread Christopher Cain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean to sound as though I am a prude, but we do a lot of our consulting at customer sites, much of it face-to-face with the customer's staff and management. I can control what messages I read and when but I cannot control when people are in my office and

Re: Tomcat session replicator

2000-12-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Shai, I apologize for not responding to you earlier ... substantive discussions are getting a little lost in the noise at the moment. For some reason, my Netscape mail reader won't let me intersperse comments -- so I've put them at the end. I think I read into your earlier comment that you'd be

[humor] Why should I care what color the bikeshed is?

2000-12-21 Thread Jon Stevens
http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING -jon

Getting around Facade

2000-12-21 Thread Seth Riney
I am interested in calling toString on a Request, but am prevented from this by the Facade wrapping infrastructure. I understand the security reasons for this, but want to see the stringified Request. I tried getting the Context and creating a SimpleFacadeManager, but I got some run time errors

help EJB

2000-12-21 Thread Boby Micheal
We are soft ware developers(Calrion systems (P)Ltd. , Cochin ,Kerala, India).Now we are developing application in EJB under weblogic server. We required to deploy the application (what we developed in EJB under weblogic server)in Tomcat server. Please give me a step by step Instructions

BugRat Report #646 has been filed.

2000-12-21 Thread BugRat Mail System
Bug report #646 has just been filed. You can view the report at the following URL: http://znutar.cortexity.com/BugRatViewer/ShowReport/646 REPORT #646 Details. Project: Tomcat Category: Bug Report SubCategory: New Bug Report Class: swbug State: received Priority: high Severity: critical

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/21/2000 11:11 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomcat3.3 is designed to allow multiple facades - while it'll be only a servlet 2.2 container, people can make a Servlet2.3 module available and you will be able to do a gradual transition ( and when all your applications

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
"Rob S." wrote: Of what value would enhancing JServ to the point of technical perfection, be right now when it is clearly not the direction things are headed? To me, if someone said, "i want to make all these great changes to JServ" I'd be like, "ok sure, but no one is going to use it

Re: Tomcat 3.3

2000-12-21 Thread Andy
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: Andy wrote: But, that being the case (and I know I'm touching on a sore spot) what will be the lifespan of 3.3. Since a proposal to publish a "Tomcat 3.3" has never been formally presented and voted on, the only logically correct answer is "I don't know."

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
GOMEZ Henri wrote: The future of Tomcat 3.3 seems to be outside Apache now. It's really sad. Sorry, but that's not what I said Henry. Last month I even came up with a proposal that got accepted (but never turned to reality) on how to handle this situation... But it seems to me, that everyone

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Sam Ruby wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: So, here I stand, my vote is a big -1 on a 3.3 as a newly architected servlet container Pier, I beg of you to reconsider. Read my email in detail... Read that phrase. I don't vote -1 on 3.3. I vote -1 if 3.3 is based on a new architecture would

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Sam Ruby wrote: As Pier recently said on another mailing list "You can't stop open source developers...". And I'm not here to stop them... Proove me wrong :) :) :) Is this really what everybody wants? I'm sure it could be made to happen. And quickly upgraded to the latest servletapi.

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
GOMEZ Henri wrote: It's more a question than a request. I was really sad with Pier reaction. I really don't want to appear as a someone disturbing the Tomcat Project. As I don't want to appear as someone who gave up Jakarta and XML to Sun and IBM respectively... And that's what you said...

Re: Tomcat 3.3

2000-12-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Andy wrote: Maybe the best thing would be if one of the commiters gave me a piece of their bug they don't feel like finding. The interim bug reporting system we are using http://znutar.cortexity.com has tons of outstanding bugs. I would not bother with the Tomcat 3.1 bugs -- anyone who

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Costin Manolache wrote: they were. Jon, you might be annoying and obnoxious at times, but those kids don't even care about reading what you're writing... Too bad all this is on an open mailing list where the mails can be read again and again - and people may form their own opinions.

Re: Tomcat 3.3

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: For the record, Sun hired me in March, 2000, so that I could work on Tomcat full time instead of it just being a hobby (as it was when the original code was written). :-) And thank you for not accepting my offer at that time, otherwise you would be working on

BugRat Report #648 has been filed.

2000-12-21 Thread BugRat Mail System
Bug report #648 has just been filed. You can view the report at the following URL: http://znutar.cortexity.com/BugRatViewer/ShowReport/648 REPORT #648 Details. Project: Tomcat Category: Bug Report SubCategory: New Bug Report Class: swbug State: received Priority: medium Severity: critical

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Christopher Cain wrote: "Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: Where were you KIDS when we were fighting the big corporations to have them looking into open source, to contribute significant parts of their technologies to the Foundation, where were you while we were changing this world? You were

[tomcat-4.0] Session Creation Slowness

2000-12-21 Thread Jon Stevens
Ok, I put a whole bunch of logging into Turbine to see *exactly* what line of code is causing the slowness that I keep reporting here and I have now found it... Log.note ("RunDataFactory: 11"); // Get the HttpSession object. data.setSession (

Re: F... It.

2000-12-21 Thread cmanolache
The future of Tomcat 3.3 seems to be outside Apache now. It's really sad. Sorry, but that's not what I said Henry. Last month I even came up with a proposal that got accepted (but never turned to reality) on how to handle this situation... But it seems to me, that everyone here is

RE: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Remy Maucherat
Quoting Nacho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please be carefull when you write something about anybody, have a look at commits please... Henri, P. Delisle and I are the only ones here that had contribute to ALL present versions of Tomcat, *ALL* dont forget that, and i feel involved on ALL of them, if

Re: Fuck It.

2000-12-21 Thread Remy Maucherat
Quoting Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's even worse - all the flames that start up whenever code from 4.0 is reused in 3.x. What's the problem ??? Are you afraid of "featurism" ( i.e. are good for 4.0 but bad for 3.3 ) ? It's open source code, and it's right to reuse it

Re: [tomcat-4.0] Session Creation Slowness

2000-12-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Jon Stevens wrote: Ok, I put a whole bunch of logging into Turbine to see *exactly* what line of code is causing the slowness that I keep reporting here and I have now found it... Log.note ("RunDataFactory: 11"); // Get the HttpSession object. data.setSession (

RE: [tomcat-4.0] Session Creation Slowness

2000-12-21 Thread Tomas Rokicki
This is probably due to the new SecureRandom-based session IDs. There is an option to turn that off somewhere. -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:47 PM To: tomcat-dev Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [tomcat-4.0] Session

Re: Tomcat 3.3

2000-12-21 Thread Andy
Yeah i saw that. I'm planning a few updates. Jon Stevens wrote: on 12/21/2000 1:13 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: updating the web site is yet another useful way to contribute). It is even documented on how to do that!

Re: F....

2000-12-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/21/2000 2:18 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomcat3.2 is a big step forward versus Tomcat3.1 - but it still have many issues - take a look at the ContextManager in 3.3, compare it with 3.2 - there are still many undefined behaviors, even code from 3.0. Tomcat 3.2 has

RE: TC 3.2 - Better logging messages when something bad happens?

2000-12-21 Thread David Rees
Thanks for the reply, From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] David Rees wrote: Anyone have any technical comments on the message below? I think that printing a stack dump in this case can be very useful, but someone else may have a different view. For developers,

mod_webapp / mod_jk

2000-12-21 Thread Dan Milstein
Pier, I wanted to ask you some questions about mod_webapp, and how you might see it working with mod_jk. I seem to have become the default ajp13 / mod_jk expert, and people have been asking for various extensions. I'm reluctant to invest much work in mod_jk/ajp13, given that TC 4.0 is using

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat/src/share/org/apache/jasper/compiler JspParseEventListener.java

2000-12-21 Thread pierred
pierred 00/12/21 15:25:28 Modified:src/share/org/apache/jasper/compiler Tag: tomcat_32 JspParseEventListener.java Log: Check for null value before invoking method. From email sent by Brian Bucknam: It's a long story, but I'm working on a project

Bug #55: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no option to set otherwise

2000-12-21 Thread Pierre Delisle
Trying to close a few Jasper bugs before the holiday break. I'd appreciate at least another pair of eyes to review what I believe should be done on that one... -- Pierre - Bug #55 - Synopsis: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no option to set otherwise. Report

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/startup Bootstrap.java

2000-12-21 Thread craigmcc
craigmcc00/12/21 15:47:20 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/startup Bootstrap.java Log: Modify the bootstrap program to call file.getCanonicalPath() rather than file.getAbsolutePath() when constructing "file:" URLs to declare as

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/loader FileClassLoader.java

2000-12-21 Thread craigmcc
craigmcc00/12/21 16:34:37 Removed: catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/loader FileClassLoader.java Log: FileClassLoader has been obsolete for a while -- remove it to avoid any potential confusion.

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/startup ContextConfig.java HostConfig.java

2000-12-21 Thread craigmcc
craigmcc00/12/21 16:37:52 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/loader StandardLoader.java catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/startup ContextConfig.java HostConfig.java Log: Second (and last) round of

Re: Bug #55: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no option to set otherwise

2000-12-21 Thread Hans Bergsten
Pierre Delisle wrote: Trying to close a few Jasper bugs before the holiday break. I'd appreciate at least another pair of eyes to review what I believe should be done on that one... -- Pierre - Bug #55 - Synopsis: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no

Re: Bug #55: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no option to set otherwise

2000-12-21 Thread Pierre Delisle
Hans, What about the javac encoding? I believe it's currently hardcoded as "UTF8" (in Compiler at least). I'm not sure what it should be in case different included pages specify different charsets ... If you refer to bug report #269, I have a fix coming in the next few minutes. [testing it

RE: help EJB

2000-12-21 Thread Jatin Shah
try www.jboss.org good luck jatin -Original Message-From: Boby Micheal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:12 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: help EJB We are soft ware developers(Calrion systems (P)Ltd. , Cochin ,Kerala, India).Now we are

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper/resources messages.properties

2000-12-21 Thread pierred
pierred 00/12/21 17:27:39 Modified:jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper EmbededServletOptions.java JspC.java Options.java jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper/compiler Compiler.java jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper/resources

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/conf web.xml

2000-12-21 Thread pierred
pierred 00/12/21 17:31:03 Modified:catalina/src/conf web.xml Log: New JspServlet init parameter for alternate java encoding used when generating Jsp pages servlet source code. The default java encoding used is UTF8. This alternate is set by default to UTF-8. Revision

Re: F....

2000-12-21 Thread Aaron Knauf
I have been following this insane tomcat 4 vs tomcat 3 debate with increasing amazement. I cannot understand why this has become such a big issue. Attempting to tell an open source developer what to write is pretty much counter to ESR's cited prime motivation for open source development -

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/session ManagerBase.java StandardManager.java

2000-12-21 Thread craigmcc
craigmcc00/12/21 17:54:34 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/session ManagerBase.java StandardManager.java Log: Cause the random number to be initialized when a webapp first starts, rather than waiting for the first call to

Re: Bug #55: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no option to set otherwise

2000-12-21 Thread Pierre Delisle
Hans Bergsten wrote: ... So, the only possible remaining thing I can think of is to make sure the encoding specified by jspEncoding is also used as the "-encoding" argument to the javac command. It is. -- Pierre

back port to 3.2 -- JspInterceptor

2000-12-21 Thread Pierre Delisle
Tried to back port the last fix I made to Jasper in tomcat 4.0 to tomcat 3.2 (the fix related to bug report #269 -- java encoding). Was almost there until I realized there is a new class "JspInterceptor" in tomcat 3.2 that is impacted by that fix. Unfortunately, I'm not too knowledgeable about

RE: Bug #55: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no option to set otherwise

2000-12-21 Thread Bucknam, Brian
Pierre Delisle is wondering: - Bug #55 - Synopsis: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no option to set otherwise. [SNIP] I'm not sure I fully understand what's described there, so here is what I believe should be done. The "encoding" for a JSP file

Re: Bug #55: Default for included files is 8859_1, with no optionto set otherwise

2000-12-21 Thread Pierre Delisle
Maybe I'm not reading carefully enough (and I haven't had time to trace the code) but I don't understand what you mean in your "modifications". The correct behavior seems to me that when a file is included, a 'fake' JspReader should be created to scan the file for a @page directive with

Re: Bug Report #649

2000-12-21 Thread Kazuhiro Kazama
Tomoaki From: Tomoaki Okitsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug Report #649 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:32:32 +0900 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tomcat.3.2.1/examples/jsp/num/numguess.jsp%20 I test this url. But I get "404 Not Found" and don't see a JSP source code. This bug may be system

Re: F....

2000-12-21 Thread cmanolache
Well, I am not that good at getting all this flames ( and to be honest I'm not used to get the "thanks" that I got lately - mostly in private mail - it looks like a very different world, and an wonderful Christmas gift for me ) In any case, I'll try to stay away from further arguments - I know