Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
Given all the comments, I think we'll go with the path of least resistance and use a SF account. Then when and if the time comes, a merge can go back into Tomcat if there is a desire. -Tim Tim Funk wrote: As part of the Google SOC. Google accepted the tomcat-reverse-proxy project to be executed by Anders Nyman ( anders.nyman at gmail d ot com ) The scope of the project is to let Tomcat act a reverse proxy by extending the balancer webapp. To make it easier to get the job done this summer while not relying on an intermediate committer, I propose granting commit access for only the following module: jakarta-tomcat-catalina/webapps/balancer/ The apache id granted would be prefixed with soc and be temporary. A CLA has already been signed and submitted. The vote is for commit access only for the module listed above. Voting rights will not be granted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
Tim Funk wrote: As part of the Google SOC. Google accepted the tomcat-reverse-proxy project to be executed by Anders Nyman ( anders.nyman at gmail d ot com ) The scope of the project is to let Tomcat act a reverse proxy by extending the balancer webapp. To make it easier to get the job done this summer while not relying on an intermediate committer, I propose granting commit access for only the following module: jakarta-tomcat-catalina/webapps/balancer/ The apache id granted would be prefixed with soc and be temporary. A CLA has already been signed and submitted. The vote is for commit access only for the module listed above. Voting rights will not be granted. [ ] Sounds good to me [ ] I'm indifferent [ ] I don't like it. Here's why Probably the best is to create a sourceforge project and when the code is mature enough incubate it. -Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
At 01:25 PM 7/11/2005, you wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It's important for students involved with SoC to learn to use the tools of our organization; I don't agree with you. The Tomcat is not place for some 'sandbox' projects. If the ASF have some agreement with Google then it should have created a 'SoC Google sandbox' not trying to force every project to create a 'Google sandbox'. The ASF didn't agree with Google that 'we need more code' (many projects seem overwhelmed at times by the amount of code they manage already, no slight intended...) The ASF agreed that Open Source needs to continue to grow in contributors. The only way to grow more contributors is to have them learn in-place. The mentor's job is to help them set up, avoid the usual foibles, help them participate in the community, and do a bit of steering of the project. Because the entire pace is 'accelerated' it is humanistically challenging, but far from impossible to bring an individual up to speed over a month or few. So it's unusual, and we aren't handing away keys to the entire kingdom. But setting up a sandbox (not your problem, it's the mentors) and watching the progress (if it scratches your itch) is not an imposition on the individual project communities. Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 01:25 PM 7/11/2005, you wrote: If the ASF have some agreement with Google then it should have created a 'SoC Google sandbox' not trying to force every project to create a 'Google sandbox'. So it's unusual, and we aren't handing away keys to the entire kingdom. But setting up a sandbox (not your problem, it's the mentors) and watching the progress (if it scratches your itch) is not an imposition on the individual project communities. Well if Tim wants to mentor that project, then fine with me. I'm sure he will ensure the integrity of the Tomcat source outside that 'sandbox' repository. If the project will have access and modify the files outside that repository, I'll be strongly against that. I'm sure the Tim will find a solution for a files that needs to be changed and that are are of the core, by simply mirroring them to the sandbox repository or something similar. Regards, Mladen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 01:25 PM 7/11/2005, you wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It's important for students involved with SoC to learn to use the tools of our organization; I don't agree with you. The Tomcat is not place for some 'sandbox' projects. If the ASF have some agreement with Google then it should have created a 'SoC Google sandbox' not trying to force every project to create a 'Google sandbox'. The ASF didn't agree with Google that 'we need more code' (many projects seem overwhelmed at times by the amount of code they manage already, no slight intended...) The ASF agreed that Open Source needs to continue to grow in contributors. The only way to grow more contributors is to have them learn in-place. The mentor's job is to help them set up, avoid the usual foibles, help them participate in the community, and do a bit of steering of the project. Because the entire pace is 'accelerated' it is humanistically challenging, but far from impossible to bring an individual up to speed over a month or few. So it's unusual, and we aren't handing away keys to the entire kingdom. But setting up a sandbox (not your problem, it's the mentors) and watching the progress (if it scratches your itch) is not an imposition on the individual project communities. Ok, so if we say it's the mentor's responsability, then it should be fine. I'll let the persons I'm mentoring know about the infrstructure we chose, then. Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
At 03:48 AM 7/12/2005, Mladen Turk wrote: Well if Tim wants to mentor that project, then fine with me. I'm sure he will ensure the integrity of the Tomcat source outside that 'sandbox' repository. Exactly the point; there were no SoC participants who did not have mentors. If this slides into the Tomcat CVS, the mentor will help with calling the vote, following procedures, etc. If the project will have access and modify the files outside that repository, I'll be strongly against that. No; I don't think anyone is asking for the SoC participants to have live access on projects that have strong traditions of merit-before-commit privileges. Some projects are much loser granting commit, such projects would probably just add another committer for the summer. I'm sure the Tim will find a solution for a files that needs to be changed and that are are of the core, by simply mirroring them to the sandbox repository or something similar. Or merging back the outcome with history. I just wanted to point out three other things; * it's really much easier if the sandbox is in svn:, such users don't need accounts on a box. * no matter if cvs or svn, the sandbox commits must be broadcast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] read or ignore them as you please. And please don't complain about the outcome if you didn't feel like actually following the progress :) * development discussion under the tomcat umbrella should occur on [EMAIL PROTECTED], the whole point is for the participants to follow the day to day life of a project, and be welcome to put forward proposals and accept feedback. Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
As part of the Google SOC. Google accepted the tomcat-reverse-proxy project to be executed by Anders Nyman ( anders.nyman at gmail d ot com ) The scope of the project is to let Tomcat act a reverse proxy by extending the balancer webapp. To make it easier to get the job done this summer while not relying on an intermediate committer, I propose granting commit access for only the following module: jakarta-tomcat-catalina/webapps/balancer/ The apache id granted would be prefixed with soc and be temporary. A CLA has already been signed and submitted. The vote is for commit access only for the module listed above. Voting rights will not be granted. [ ] Sounds good to me [ ] I'm indifferent [ ] I don't like it. Here's why -Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
Hi, As part of the Google SOC. Google accepted the tomcat-reverse-proxy project to be executed by Anders Nyman ( anders.nyman at gmail d ot com ) The scope of the project is to let Tomcat act a reverse proxy by extending the balancer webapp. To make it easier to get the job done this summer while not relying on an intermediate committer, I propose granting commit access for only the following module: jakarta-tomcat-catalina/webapps/balancer/ The apache id granted would be prefixed with soc and be temporary. A CLA has already been signed and submitted. The vote is for commit access only for the module listed above. Voting rights will not be granted. [ ] Sounds good to me [ ] I'm indifferent [ X ] I don't like it. Here's why Commit privileges are earned with merit only. All the above caveats are helpful, but circumvent the core issue. I gladly volunteer to help review, comment, and commit Anders' contributions as appropriate. If/when the contributions are of such quality as to merit commitership, I'll also gladly start a vote and +1 it. But that's not the case yet, a good student application notwithstanding. (These opinions have been raised and explored more on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and different projects have come up with different approaches). Yoav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
Tim Funk wrote: As part of the Google SOC. Google accepted the tomcat-reverse-proxy project to be executed by Anders Nyman ( anders.nyman at gmail d ot com ) [ ] Sounds good to me [ ] I'm indifferent [X] I don't like it. Here's why IMO the reverse proxy is a good thing to be done, and Tomcat can benefit from it. I doubt if the balancer is a good place for such addition. Also I agree with Yoav. If the code is good, and if it works I see no reason why not including it in the code. I have developed, and I am developing the majority of the code without being connected to the CVS all the time. Regards, Mladen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
At 12:52 PM 7/11/2005, Mladen Turk wrote: I have developed, and I am developing the majority of the code without being connected to the CVS all the time. It's important for students involved with SoC to learn to use the tools of our organization; and it's equally important that we capture the history and evolution of the code, from its infancy through the process of peer review. A code dump isn't what we are looking for, and the code should be developed incrementally with peer/mentor review. -1 to any SoC happening outside of Tomcat's purview. +1 to creating a sandbox for this project so the effort can be merged back in, trivially, if and when it's successful (that includes successful peer review, the usual 3 +1's etc.) Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It's important for students involved with SoC to learn to use the tools of our organization; I don't agree with you. The Tomcat is not place for some 'sandbox' projects. If the ASF have some agreement with Google then it should have created a 'SoC Google sandbox' not trying to force every project to create a 'Google sandbox'. Again, I have nothing against the effort or goals or Regards, Mladen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
Tim Funk wrote: As part of the Google SOC. Google accepted the tomcat-reverse-proxy project to be executed by Anders Nyman ( anders.nyman at gmail d ot com ) The scope of the project is to let Tomcat act a reverse proxy by extending the balancer webapp. To make it easier to get the job done this summer while not relying on an intermediate committer, I propose granting commit access for only the following module: jakarta-tomcat-catalina/webapps/balancer/ The apache id granted would be prefixed with soc and be temporary. A CLA has already been signed and submitted. The vote is for commit access only for the module listed above. Voting rights will not be granted. [X] Sounds good to me [ ] I'm indifferent [ ] I don't like it. Here's why There are a few ways this could be handled, and this seems the easiest. I have had satisfactory email discussions with the two students I plan to mentor on Jasper, so I feel confident they will not screw things up (at least not too much ;)). I will propose them as temp committers as well if the vote passes. Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
