RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-03 Thread Ben Souther
Al,
I read it thoroughly. Remy Maucharat didn't mention the platform he had
tested on until the 7th post and by then Yoav Shapira had already stated
that he tested it as well (with no mention of the platform). They also
agreed that the case would be re-opened if you could help them to
reproduce the problem.

My criticism is that you mentioned a developer from the users list who
also claimed to have problems shutting down Tocmat which would seem to
bolster your case -- except that he never mentioned whether or not he
was starting his own threads in his application.  You did not, however,
mention that I tested on the exact same distribution that you're having
problems on with a fresh download of TC and it ran fine.

If you're serious about getting to the root of the problem, which I
think you are, it's important that all facts are on the table -- even
the ones that don't support your argument.

-Ben



On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 01:43, Al Sutton wrote:
 Ben,
 
 Please re-read my email. It is discussing the initial response I received
 from the -dev list, and then addressing the issue raised about it being
 distribution specific.
 
 My critisism was that the bug was initially closed when the only attempt to
 re-produce it I was made aware of was made on a completely different
 platform and that it initially appeared that the -dev list did not have
 developers that were willing to investigate the problem.
 
 Regards,
 
 Al.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 02 February 2005 22:25
 To: Tomcat Developers List
 Subject: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9] - Shutdown script down not work
 
 
 On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:54, Al Sutton wrote:
  In answer to your points;
 
  on 3) I'm not asking for it tested on all distros, just those where issues
  have arisen. If no-one has FC2 installed then thats something the group
  should know about and should be able to say Sorry, no-one has FC2,
 rather
  than Closed bug, doesn't work on [insert name of totally different
 platform
  here].
 
  The users mail list has a report from Drew Jorgenson if it not working on
  RHAS 3, and I can confirm I've also seen the behaviour on SLES8 (i.e. a
  non-redhat product), so I don't think it's distribution specific.
 
 Just for the record, I tested on FC2 and posted the shell session on the
 users list. You responded to my email before writing this message.
 I've also stated that I'm willing to upgrade both the kernel and the JDK
 to test under an environment that is closer to yours.
 
 Please don't omit these details when when writing to either list. At the
 very least, it's dishonest, at worst it's misleading and could cause
 people to waste time repeating things that have already been done.
 
 -Ben
 
 
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Re: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-03 Thread tomcat

Ben,

I made the comments I did largely because of the attitude shown in the
initial responses I received upon reporting the bug. Responses such as
the following made me beleive no-one on the -dev list actually cared
about fixing the problem;

- This is always because your code or libraries used by it start and
don't  terminate non-daemon threads (and then closing the bug as
invalid) - which is incorrect as I've now prooved.

- Well, I just tested it, and wasted my time ;) (and then closing the
bug as invalid) - after testing on completely the wrong platform.

- two people (myself being the second) have confirmed that this issue
is not reproducible  - again incorrect, as you mentioned at least one
other person reproduced the issue and I have reproduced on two seperate
machines.

- don't write statements like which seems to show there are a lot of
threads waiting on an object. This doesn't make any sense, and makes
the credibility of the report go down. - The original statement is
perfectly valid, has been used by many people in many discussions, and
originates from Suns own documentation and guidelines.

- I just tested with Ubuntu Hoary and Sun JRE 1.5.0_01. Both startup.sh
and shutdown.sh work as expected, and Tomcat runs great. - Wrong
platform and JDK again.

It wasn't until you became involved that there appeared to be any sign
of anyone taking this issue seriously. As I hope you can understand I
was becomming increasingly frustrated and therefore focused on trying
to show how it could be reproduced rather than providing fuel for what
seemed to be the prevalent attitude of Doesn't work on my box, not
interested.

I have since made a post with what I beleive to be potential fixes to
resolve the problem.

Regards,

Al.

Ben Souther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03.02.2005, 13:14:13:
 Al,
 I read it thoroughly. Remy Maucharat didn't mention the platform he had
 tested on until the 7th post and by then Yoav Shapira had already stated
 that he tested it as well (with no mention of the platform). They also
 agreed that the case would be re-opened if you could help them to
 reproduce the problem.
 
 My criticism is that you mentioned a developer from the users list who
 also claimed to have problems shutting down Tocmat which would seem to
 bolster your case -- except that he never mentioned whether or not he
 was starting his own threads in his application.  You did not, however,
 mention that I tested on the exact same distribution that you're having
 problems on with a fresh download of TC and it ran fine.
 
 If you're serious about getting to the root of the problem, which I
 think you are, it's important that all facts are on the table -- even
 the ones that don't support your argument.
 
 -Ben
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 01:43, Al Sutton wrote:
  Ben,
  
  Please re-read my email. It is discussing the initial response I received
  from the -dev list, and then addressing the issue raised about it being
  distribution specific.
  
  My critisism was that the bug was initially closed when the only attempt to
  re-produce it I was made aware of was made on a completely different
  platform and that it initially appeared that the -dev list did not have
  developers that were willing to investigate the problem.
  
  Regards,
  
  Al.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 02 February 2005 22:25
  To: Tomcat Developers List
  Subject: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9] - Shutdown script down not work
  
  
  On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:54, Al Sutton wrote:
   In answer to your points;
  
   on 3) I'm not asking for it tested on all distros, just those where issues
   have arisen. If no-one has FC2 installed then thats something the group
   should know about and should be able to say Sorry, no-one has FC2,
  rather
   than Closed bug, doesn't work on [insert name of totally different
  platform
   here].
  
   The users mail list has a report from Drew Jorgenson if it not working on
   RHAS 3, and I can confirm I've also seen the behaviour on SLES8 (i.e. a
   non-redhat product), so I don't think it's distribution specific.
  
  Just for the record, I tested on FC2 and posted the shell session on the
  users list. You responded to my email before writing this message.
  I've also stated that I'm willing to upgrade both the kernel and the JDK
  to test under an environment that is closer to yours.
  
  Please don't omit these details when when writing to either list. At the
  very least, it's dishonest, at worst it's misleading and could cause
  people to waste time repeating things that have already been done.
  
  -Ben
  
  
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Re: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-03 Thread Ben Souther
 I have since made a post with what I beleive to be potential fixes to
 resolve the problem.
 
I saw that post.  All other bantering aside, it's good you found the problem.
I hope you will add your findings to the bug report so someone else with a 
similar 
problem doesn't have to retrace all of your steps before finding the solution.

I realize you were insulted by the tone of the initial responses you received.
I wasn't taking sides on that issue.  I just wanted to make sure that, in spite 
of hurt feelings, all the details were accurately reported in every discussion
so that someone else researching the same issue six months from now doesn't  
miss an important detail.

Again, I'm glad you found the problem.
Congrats  :-D
-Ben




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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread Remy Maucherat
Al Sutton wrote:
So let me get this right, just because you can't reproduce it on your system
you're not willing to leave it open for others to check, despite the fact
you haven't, as yet, told me if your using the same JDK, Linux environment,
and you've not waiting for others to comment.
Guess the easiest way to get round this is to move to Jetty.
Bye then ;)
Rémy
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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread tomcat

A few points;

1) This bug is also on SuSE Enterprise Server 8 as welll as FC2.

2) The sentance which seems to show there are a lot of threads
 waiting on an object does make sense if you've delt with threaded
programming and strack traces before. All of the threads with
Object.wait() listed at the top are held in the wait() method of an
object (i.e. the thread is waiting on an object). This is a term which
comes from Suns own JavaDoc for the Object class and can be seen at
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html.

Although a number of the threads are daemon threads, and thus don't need
to exit before the JVM exits, it's usually safe programming to allow
the thread to exit gracefully to ensure the correct release of any
resources.


3) Cygwin is definatley NOT a good platform for testing Linux bugs on.
Cygwin is a layer that converts Unix calls into their Windows
equivalents, but it does not have Linux underneath and therefore does
not represent the threading, networking, and scheduling characteristics
of a Linux machine. 


4) Do you want to tell the Fedora guys that the Tomcat developers
official view of Fedora Core 2 is that its' a crappy distro?


5) Do you expect me to re-install my system just to get Tomcat working?,
It's easier to replace Tomcat with Jetty than it would be to resintall
my machine with one of the distros that you don't consider crappy
(mind you I would have thought Novell would be interested to hear it if
you want to call SLES 8 crappy as well).



Now I'd like to help resolve this, but at the moment all I'm seeing is a
wall of not interesting, can't be bothered, lets' mark it as invalid
because I can't reproduce on my own personal setup. Which kinda
worries me about how many other bugs have been treated in this manner
and the bug reporters just gave up hope of getting things fixed.

Regards,

Al.


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 My post to this bug got lost somehow. The code indicates that shutdown of the 
 JK
 connector is failing in the unlock accept process. This code has been there
 unchanged (and identical) for years in both JK and HTTP, and hasn't caused any
 problems. If you're not using JK, you can try disabling it.
 
 BTW, don't write statements like which seems to show there are a lot of 
 threads
 waiting on an object. This doesn't make any sense, and makes the credibility 
 of
 the report go down. Stick to reproduceable facts if you are not aware of
 implementation details. The only thread which matters here is:
 
 main prio=1 tid=0x0805bda8 nid=0x33b6 runnable [bfffc000..bfffd618]
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(PlainSocketImpl.java:305)
   - locked  (a java.net.PlainSocketImpl)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(PlainSocketImpl.java:171)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(PlainSocketImpl.java:158)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:452)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:402)
   at java.net.Socket.(Socket.java:309)
   at java.net.Socket.(Socket.java:153)
   at org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.unLockSocket
 (ChannelSocket.java:460)
   at org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.pause(ChannelSocket.java:272)
   - locked  (a org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket)
   at org.apache.jk.server.JkMain.pause(JkMain.java:677)
   at org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.pause(JkCoyoteHandler.java:208)
   at org.apache.catalina.connector.Connector.pause(Connector.java:933)
   at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.stop
 (StandardService.java:491)
   - locked  (a [Lorg.apache.catalina.connector.Connector;)
   at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.stop
 (StandardServer.java:717)
   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.stop(Catalina.java:586)
   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:561)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
 (NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
 (DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.start(Bootstrap.java:271)
   at 

Re: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread tomcat

Nice to know you care about quality so much.

Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02.02.2005, 12:17:55:
 Al Sutton wrote:
  So let me get this right, just because you can't reproduce it on your system
  you're not willing to leave it open for others to check, despite the fact
  you haven't, as yet, told me if your using the same JDK, Linux environment,
  and you've not waiting for others to comment.
  
  Guess the easiest way to get round this is to move to Jetty.
 
 Bye then ;)
 
 Rémy
 
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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread Remy Maucherat
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Nice to know you care about quality so much.
Anytime :)
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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread Costin Manolache
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3) Cygwin is definatley NOT a good platform for testing Linux bugs on.
However testing with all possible linux distributions is not a good 
choice either.

And distributions based on 'latest' version of everything plus all kind 
of experimental/non stable/vendor specific stuff -  like fedora - are 
not the best choice for a supported platform.

Can you reproduce it on RHEL or RH9 ?  If not - report the bug on fedora.
4) Do you want to tell the Fedora guys that the Tomcat developers
official view of Fedora Core 2 is that its' a crappy distro?
It is not 'official view' - but some developers have issues with FC :-)

5) Do you expect me to re-install my system just to get Tomcat working?,
It's easier to replace Tomcat with Jetty than it would be to resintall
my machine with one of the distros that you don't consider crappy
I believe a lot of products ( and not only java ) officially support 
only few distributions. We can't ask you to re-install your system - but 
you can't ask us to reinstall and test your favorite distro either. 
There are just too many incompatible linux distributions.

If jetty works on your linux distro - just use it. It's a fine open 
source product. Or you can use resin or any other server.


Now I'd like to help resolve this, but at the moment all I'm seeing is a
wall of not interesting, can't be bothered, lets' mark it as invalid
because I can't reproduce on my own personal setup. Which kinda
Probably the comments should be more explicit - like 'unsupported 
platform / not reproductible on supported platforms '.

Costin
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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread Al Sutton
In answer to your points;

on 3) I'm not asking for it tested on all distros, just those where issues
have arisen. If no-one has FC2 installed then thats something the group
should know about and should be able to say Sorry, no-one has FC2, rather
than Closed bug, doesn't work on [insert name of totally different platform
here].

The users mail list has a report from Drew Jorgenson if it not working on
RHAS 3, and I can confirm I've also seen the behaviour on SLES8 (i.e. a
non-redhat product), so I don't think it's distribution specific.

on 4) It's never good to write that any other groups efforts off as crappy,
I'm sure this group wouldn't be happy if the Fedora group described Tomcat
as crappy. We're all doing our best (yes, I have released some open source
code in the past), and it worried me that the crappy comment was made and
no-one else stepped in to be a bit more helpful.

on 5) Given your response I'm happy to offer help with FC2 related problems.
I wasn't willing to make this offer before because it seemed the only
responses I had were aimed more at getting the bug marked as closed than
investigating where the problem was. I'll keep an eye on the -dev list (but
unfortunatley I don't have time to look at all the bug report comments) and
if I see a problem with FC2 I will attempt to dupluicate it. In case your
wondering what my experience is I've been a Linux sys admin for 11 years,
and have been programming system in Java for about 8 years with the last 5
spent focused on developing high performance server side applications for
Teleco's and Financial institutions, which hopefully will allow me to assist
in some way.

on the last paragraph - I completely agree. If people know which platforms
are fully supported (i.e. if bugs are reported someone can test them
easilly) it will make life a lot easier. You'll probably find that in return
for listing a platform as full supported the distributor may be receptive to
including Tomcat in their product.

Costin, I'd like to thank you for the sending the first comprehensive
response which makes me feel that users bugs are taken seriously, and not
treated as something that should be closed at any costs.

Regards,

Al.


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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Costin Manolache
Sent: 02 February 2005 21:22
To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9] - Shutdown script down not work


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3) Cygwin is definatley NOT a good platform for testing Linux bugs on.

However testing with all possible linux distributions is not a good
choice either.

And distributions based on 'latest' version of everything plus all kind
of experimental/non stable/vendor specific stuff -  like fedora - are
not the best choice for a supported platform.

Can you reproduce it on RHEL or RH9 ?  If not - report the bug on fedora.


 4) Do you want to tell the Fedora guys that the Tomcat developers
 official view of Fedora Core 2 is that its' a crappy distro?

It is not 'official view' - but some developers have issues with FC :-)


 5) Do you expect me to re-install my system just to get Tomcat working?,
 It's easier to replace Tomcat with Jetty than it would be to resintall
 my machine with one of the distros that you don't consider crappy

I believe a lot of products ( and not only java ) officially support
only few distributions. We can't ask you to re-install your system - but
you can't ask us to reinstall and test your favorite distro either.
There are just too many incompatible linux distributions.

If jetty works on your linux distro - just use it. It's a fine open
source product. Or you can use resin or any other server.


 Now I'd like to help resolve this, but at the moment all I'm seeing is a
 wall of not interesting, can't be bothered, lets' mark it as invalid
 because I can't reproduce on my own personal setup. Which kinda

Probably the comments should be more explicit - like 'unsupported
platform / not reproductible on supported platforms '.


Costin


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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread Ben Souther
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:54, Al Sutton wrote:
 In answer to your points;
 
 on 3) I'm not asking for it tested on all distros, just those where issues
 have arisen. If no-one has FC2 installed then thats something the group
 should know about and should be able to say Sorry, no-one has FC2, rather
 than Closed bug, doesn't work on [insert name of totally different platform
 here].
 
 The users mail list has a report from Drew Jorgenson if it not working on
 RHAS 3, and I can confirm I've also seen the behaviour on SLES8 (i.e. a
 non-redhat product), so I don't think it's distribution specific.

Just for the record, I tested on FC2 and posted the shell session on the
users list. You responded to my email before writing this message.
I've also stated that I'm willing to upgrade both the kernel and the JDK
to test under an environment that is closer to yours. 

Please don't omit these details when when writing to either list. At the
very least, it's dishonest, at worst it's misleading and could cause
people to waste time repeating things that have already been done.

-Ben


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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread Costin Manolache
Well, if you can debug this and find the real cause and a fix - I'm sure
someone will look at it.
But please understand that Remy and the other tomcat developers deal 
with a lot of bugs, and usually it's frustrating to deal with bugs that 
happen only on certain situations. If Java code behaves correctly on 
most platforms - but it doesn't work on few distributions - you may as 
well report this as a bug to either Sun or the distribution. BTW, we are 
engineers, not PR people - so 'crappy' comments may happen :-)

So if you have a patch or workaround - please reopen the bug and add the 
fix. It would be a better way to spend the time instead of arguing about 
closing/not closing it or hurt feelings :-)

Costin
Al Sutton wrote:
In answer to your points;
on 3) I'm not asking for it tested on all distros, just those where issues
have arisen. If no-one has FC2 installed then thats something the group
should know about and should be able to say Sorry, no-one has FC2, rather
than Closed bug, doesn't work on [insert name of totally different platform
here].
The users mail list has a report from Drew Jorgenson if it not working on
RHAS 3, and I can confirm I've also seen the behaviour on SLES8 (i.e. a
non-redhat product), so I don't think it's distribution specific.
on 4) It's never good to write that any other groups efforts off as crappy,
I'm sure this group wouldn't be happy if the Fedora group described Tomcat
as crappy. We're all doing our best (yes, I have released some open source
code in the past), and it worried me that the crappy comment was made and
no-one else stepped in to be a bit more helpful.
on 5) Given your response I'm happy to offer help with FC2 related problems.
I wasn't willing to make this offer before because it seemed the only
responses I had were aimed more at getting the bug marked as closed than
investigating where the problem was. I'll keep an eye on the -dev list (but
unfortunatley I don't have time to look at all the bug report comments) and
if I see a problem with FC2 I will attempt to dupluicate it. In case your
wondering what my experience is I've been a Linux sys admin for 11 years,
and have been programming system in Java for about 8 years with the last 5
spent focused on developing high performance server side applications for
Teleco's and Financial institutions, which hopefully will allow me to assist
in some way.
on the last paragraph - I completely agree. If people know which platforms
are fully supported (i.e. if bugs are reported someone can test them
easilly) it will make life a lot easier. You'll probably find that in return
for listing a platform as full supported the distributor may be receptive to
including Tomcat in their product.
Costin, I'd like to thank you for the sending the first comprehensive
response which makes me feel that users bugs are taken seriously, and not
treated as something that should be closed at any costs.
Regards,
Al.
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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Costin Manolache
Sent: 02 February 2005 21:22
To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9] - Shutdown script down not work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

3) Cygwin is definatley NOT a good platform for testing Linux bugs on.

However testing with all possible linux distributions is not a good
choice either.
And distributions based on 'latest' version of everything plus all kind
of experimental/non stable/vendor specific stuff -  like fedora - are
not the best choice for a supported platform.
Can you reproduce it on RHEL or RH9 ?  If not - report the bug on fedora.

4) Do you want to tell the Fedora guys that the Tomcat developers
official view of Fedora Core 2 is that its' a crappy distro?

It is not 'official view' - but some developers have issues with FC :-)

5) Do you expect me to re-install my system just to get Tomcat working?,
It's easier to replace Tomcat with Jetty than it would be to resintall
my machine with one of the distros that you don't consider crappy

I believe a lot of products ( and not only java ) officially support
only few distributions. We can't ask you to re-install your system - but
you can't ask us to reinstall and test your favorite distro either.
There are just too many incompatible linux distributions.
If jetty works on your linux distro - just use it. It's a fine open
source product. Or you can use resin or any other server.

Now I'd like to help resolve this, but at the moment all I'm seeing is a
wall of not interesting, can't be bothered, lets' mark it as invalid
because I can't reproduce on my own personal setup. Which kinda

Probably the comments should be more explicit - like 'unsupported
platform / not reproductible on supported platforms '.
Costin
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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-02 Thread Al Sutton
Ben,

Please re-read my email. It is discussing the initial response I received
from the -dev list, and then addressing the issue raised about it being
distribution specific.

My critisism was that the bug was initially closed when the only attempt to
re-produce it I was made aware of was made on a completely different
platform and that it initially appeared that the -dev list did not have
developers that were willing to investigate the problem.

Regards,

Al.

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From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 February 2005 22:25
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9] - Shutdown script down not work


On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:54, Al Sutton wrote:
 In answer to your points;

 on 3) I'm not asking for it tested on all distros, just those where issues
 have arisen. If no-one has FC2 installed then thats something the group
 should know about and should be able to say Sorry, no-one has FC2,
rather
 than Closed bug, doesn't work on [insert name of totally different
platform
 here].

 The users mail list has a report from Drew Jorgenson if it not working on
 RHAS 3, and I can confirm I've also seen the behaviour on SLES8 (i.e. a
 non-redhat product), so I don't think it's distribution specific.

Just for the record, I tested on FC2 and posted the shell session on the
users list. You responded to my email before writing this message.
I've also stated that I'm willing to upgrade both the kernel and the JDK
to test under an environment that is closer to yours.

Please don't omit these details when when writing to either list. At the
very least, it's dishonest, at worst it's misleading and could cause
people to waste time repeating things that have already been done.

-Ben


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RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work

2005-02-01 Thread Al Sutton
So let me get this right, just because you can't reproduce it on your system
you're not willing to leave it open for others to check, despite the fact
you haven't, as yet, told me if your using the same JDK, Linux environment,
and you've not waiting for others to comment.

Guess the easiest way to get round this is to move to Jetty.

Al.


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As I said originally, use the mailing list for discussion and to get
suggestions from other users.  This is not a discussion forum, especially
not
once two people (myself being the second) have confirmed that this issue is
not reproducible.  Please don't reopen this issue.

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