Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Fedora "tomcat" > Remy Maucherat wrote: > >> > >> Finally - am I overreacting, are other peopl

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote: Remy Maucherat wrote: Finally - am I overreacting, are other people seeing this as a real issue, or should we just ignore the problem like apache does ? I would answer no, as the stability issue is a big problem (the HTTPd doesn't have that issue; why is the worst left to

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Costin Manolache
Remy Maucherat wrote: Finally - am I overreacting, are other people seeing this as a real issue, or should we just ignore the problem like apache does ? I would answer no, as the stability issue is a big problem (the HTTPd doesn't have that issue; why is the worst left to us ? :/). The director

RE: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hola, >Well, I fully agree with you - my preference is also to stick with the >current layout and provide an RPM that uses this layout. > >Both you and Henri suggested Jpackage - which uses the FHS layout I >described ( i.e. config under /etc - aribrary subdir is ok, etc ). >Distros like Debian a

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote: I'm fine with using jpackage as the "official" or recommended binary distribution for RPM-based distributions. This solves part of the problem. To make sure everyone understand, this will mean we support the following layout for FHS-based linux systems, in addition to our

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Costin Manolache
Shapira, Yoav wrote: Hi, Finally - am I overreacting, are other people seeing this as a real issue, or should we just ignore the problem like apache does ? At the moment, I tend to think yes (we should ignore this problem), because: we make the same assumptions as httpd regarding the technical li

RE: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, >Finally - am I overreacting, are other people seeing this as a real >issue, or should we just ignore the problem like apache does ? At the moment, I tend to think yes (we should ignore this problem), because: we make the same assumptions as httpd regarding the technical literacy / competenc

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Costin Manolache
RPMs, why not point (in docs, or a link somewhere) to the JPackage.org ones? http://www.jpackage.org/ Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:59 AM To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: RE: Fedora &quo

RE: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Shapira, Yoav
t;Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:02 AM >To: Tomcat Developers List >Subject: Re: Fedora "tomcat" > >Costin Manolache a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> I don't know if you saw it, but Fedora ( the free Redhat distro ) >> includes now tomcat-4.1.27. I think

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Henri Gomez
Costin Manolache a écrit : Hi, I don't know if you saw it, but Fedora ( the free Redhat distro ) includes now tomcat-4.1.27. I think this is a big problem and we should be aware of it - the "tomcat" they distribute uses the worst layout, doesn't start like any other tomcat, it seem to run out of

RE: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-17 Thread Shapira, Yoav
atics >-Original Message- >From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:59 AM >To: Tomcat Developers List >Subject: RE: Fedora "tomcat" > >> -Original Message- >> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Co

RE: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-16 Thread Steve Raeburn
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Costin Manolache > Sent: May 16, 2004 10:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Fedora "tomcat" > > > It's not a "derivative" - it's the same tomcat code, jus

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-16 Thread Costin Manolache
ourse, if you can also make it easier for Fedora to use the official TC releases, then that would be great too. I'll go back to lurking now :-) Steve -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Costin Manolache Sent: May 16, 2004 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj

RE: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-16 Thread Steve Raeburn
or Fedora to use the official TC releases, then that would be great too. I'll go back to lurking now :-) Steve > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Costin Manolache > Sent: May 16, 2004 5:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Fe

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-16 Thread Costin Manolache
Remy Maucherat wrote: It is very nice they are bundling java tools and tomcat - but I thing it is a big problem ( for tomcat developers, fedora users and tomcat users ) that they distribute such a badly modified tomcat ( and call it tomcat) But for a daemon, which is often more complex and ne

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-16 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote: Ant actually works quite well, it seem to have a much better startup time, which is very nice for a tool like ant. Yes, for Ant, startup time is critical, so native compilation is great. It is very nice they are bundling java tools and tomcat - but I thing it is a big prob

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-16 Thread Costin Manolache
Remy Maucherat wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: I don't know if you saw it, but Fedora ( the free Redhat distro ) includes now tomcat-4.1.27. I think this is a big problem and we should Yes, I saw that FC 2 claims to bundle a lot of Java tools, including Tomcat. Ant actually works quite well, it

Re: Fedora "tomcat"

2004-05-16 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote: I don't know if you saw it, but Fedora ( the free Redhat distro ) includes now tomcat-4.1.27. I think this is a big problem and we should Yes, I saw that FC 2 claims to bundle a lot of Java tools, including Tomcat. be aware of it - the "tomcat" they distribute uses the wor